71-year-old man ordered to stop photographing car in UK shopping mall
Hugh Cleverley, who apparently is such a well-known character in the United Kingdom that his name inspires its own headline, was photographing the new Chevrolet Spark supermini in a shopping mall when he was accosted by two security guards.
Obviously, the 71-year-old man’s name who retired from the Hampshire Constabulary, which is described as a “territorial police force,” did not carry enough clout to tell the guards to piss off.
Cleverley said he is a fan of “cars and motobikes” so he was really looking forward to taking photos of the Chevy Spark, according to the Southern Daily Echo,
which ran the headline “Hugh Cleverley Prevented From Photographing New Chevrolet Spark in Eastleigh.”
“But suddenly there were these two men in black suits telling me I had to stop. I couldn’t believe it.
“As my wife said, you would think the place was a secret rocket site the way they acted. I was very angry because it was so narrow minded of them and very over the top.
“A little bit of common sense would have told them I was causing no harm, it was just a car.”
Centre manager Dee Buffone said that if people wanted to take photos they could ask the management team for permission.
He added: “This policy has been adopted to protect members of the public from being photographed without their consent.”
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Comments
If this car were on a sidewalk on the street in front of the mall and the man was taking a picture from across the street then I could see the problem of him being questioned. This seems to be private property. As much as it’s not cool for the owner to restrict photos, it’s his right as a business owner. Malls are private places where public is around to shop.
Again, outside on the street in public, i’d see no issue with the car being photographed.
SlayerBoy..
You’re not for real.. right!?
You see NO issue with the car being photographed out in the public, ie: city street.. but you have a issue with it being photographed out in a public mall where the public is.
Obviously there’s something wrong with this thinking process. Granted the mall is privately owned, but it’s open to the public.. which in effect makes it a public place.
In my mind it’s one thing to have a business that’s privately owned and not open to the public (which allows the owner to set certain rules and regulations that must be followed).. and a business that’s privately owned, but open to all of the public.
If you have a business that deals with the public, then one must realize that with it comes certain actions that are going to be done by the public. That’s just the way it is.
Rail Car Fan
rail car fan: even in the US “malls” are allowed to bar photography. Even open air malls such as the Irvine Spectrum have “no photography” policies. That we violate every time we go there, taking pictures of the huge ferris wheel, etc. They think it’s a threat to their trademarks and livelihood and whatever else they can will themselves into believing.
GeneWitch..
You missed my point, which was..
“If you have a business that deals with the public
(then as a owner of that business),
you must realize that with owning said business
(in which you have openly asked the public to use your services)..
there will be certain actions by the same public,
one of which is photographing in and around your business.”
It is immaterial to me whether or not malls can legally bar photographers. If you as a mall owner don’t want photo’s taken, then don’t openly invite the public into your mall. Make it a private “by invitation only” mall in which you want to impose your will and attitudes and that will solve the problem.
If not.. then don’t openly invite the general public into it.
Rail Car Fan
GeneWitch..
You missed my point, which was..
“If you have a business that deals with the public
(then as a owner of that business),
you must realize that with owning said business
(in which you have openly asked the public to use your services)..
there will be certain actions by the same public,
one of which is skating in and around your business.”
It is immaterial to me whether or not malls can legally bar skaters. If you as a mall owner don’t want people skating, then don’t openly invite the public into your mall. Make it a private “by invitation only” mall in which you want to impose your will and attitudes and that will solve the problem.
If not.. then don’t openly invite the general public into it.
Kyle
It’s private property, period. What I would do is tell all the business owners what the policy of the mall is and let them know that I won’t be shopping in the mall because of the policy. I would also talk to whomever is responsible for the car (charity, dealership etc.) as I am sure they want people taking photos for publicity and to promote whatever they are selling. Hit them in the pocket book, money talks.
The reality though is this is the new Britain, a paranoid police state, but like I already said, it’s private property, if you don’t like it then don’t partake of their “services.”
I would try a lawsuit, maybe they are violating some kind of right, in the UK there is likely some politically correct/airy fairy law on the books about old people being able to take pictures etc.
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We are losing more and more freedom everyday and they are wiping out the middle class and working class families!
http://americaspeaksink.com/2010/04/truck-drivers-are-being-wiped-out/co...
Or nudists, or christians, or protesters, etc.
Truck drivers are middle class? I always thought they were trailer trash, but maybe in the American midwest that is what passes for being middle class. In regards to the middle class being wiped out, Drew Carey did a good show for Reason TV about it, see the link below.
http://reason.tv/video/show/living-large
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my brother in law makes about 100,000 a year as a truck driver. i think thats a little better than middle class. he does live in a nice trailer tho I think if you called him trash you'd be spittin teeth for awhile you pompous arrogant twit.
Jody-
Truck drivers can make 100 grand or more a year. I think it’s more likely your house came on wheels.
yeah but 75% of that goes to child support payment in other states.
No, Pinandpuller, my house wasn’t fancy enough to have wheels, I just turned over a metal rowboat, called it a trailer home and knocked up my cousin. If truckers do make six figures they more than earn it, not to mention I can’t imagine how much of that they have to plough back into their truck if they are an owner or pay out to a company that robs them blind. Of course if we did not have all the stupid government regulations then truck driving would not be such a dangerous and hard job.
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We’re talking about the UK, though.
Before Diana’s death I’m sure photographs like they took would have been no big deal.
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