TSA Detains Man For Attempting to Videotape His Own Patdown
In yet another example of how TSA has done nothing to educate its screeners about its own policy on photography, Transportation Security Administration officials detained a man trying to videotape his own patdown search.
Douglas Hester, who operates the Northern Muckraker blog, said he was detained at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport Monday.
Hester and his companion were on their way back to Phoenix as they prepared to walk through the metal detector at a security checkpoint. They placed their items in a bin, including a cell phone with the video camera recording.
Then they were chosen to step through the x-ray body scanners, which have been the source of controversy since they were introduced last year. That's when they chose to opt-out.
The problems started when they asked a TSA official to reach into the bin to point the camera in their direction so it could record the patdown.
He visibly recoiled and told us that filming in the security area was strictly prohibited. We politely told him that he was mistaken, and that the TSA explicitly does not prohibit photography in the screening areas.
Several screeners had arrived at this point and proceeded to berate us en masse for having the audacity to have a running camera in the security area. We kept calm and requested they dial the 1-800 number prominently posted on signs throughout the area so that TSA Customer Service could inform them that our activities were perfectly legal. They declined to do so.
The cameras were still rolling when TSA Terminal Coordinator Tom Kinderknecht arrived and told them that they were not allowed to record at the checkpoint. He also told them that the Texas state police were on their way.
Meanwhile, on the TSA's Website FAQ page, it states that photography of TSA checkpoints is allowed.
Q. Is it okay to take pictures or videos inside the airport and at a checkpoint?
A. TSA does not prohibit photographs at screening locations; however, local laws, state statutes, or local ordinances may. We recommend contacting your local airport authority in advance to ensure you are familiar with their local procedures. While TSA does not prohibit the public, passengers or press from photographing, videotaping, or filming at screening locations, TSA may ask a photographer to stop if they are interfering with the screening process or taking photos of X-ray monitor screens in a checkpoint. The same guidelines apply to media. Members of the press should contact TSA's Office of Public Affairs, at 571-227-2829, prior to filming or taking photographs at a security checkpoint.
While there is a difference between taking a casual photo and someone conducting surveillance, travelers should not be surprised if TSA or local law enforcement inquires about their actions. This is important to ensure the safety of the traveling public and something our officers may do as part of their security mission.
Hester and his companion then decided that the situation wasn't worth missing their flight over.
The standoff ended after 10 or so minutes when we offered to shut the camera down so that we could be screened and not miss our flight, having felt that our point had been made. This was acceptable to Mr. Kinderknecht, and so we turned off the devices. The subsequent pat-down by Officer Burd was rapidly and competently accomplished with great professionalism on his part.
The kicker: Kinderknecht, the TSA terminal coordinator who told them they were not allowed to record, eventually admitted that they were in deed allowed to record.
Mr. Kinderknecht then asked us if we were traveling alone, and we answered in the affirmative. He then stated that we were indeed correct about filming (so why were we detained in the first place?), but that someone else besides us (such as a companion) would have to do the recording since we wouldn't be allowed to touch our belongings during the process. We replied that of course we didn't expect to be able to hold the camera, we merely wished the screener to move it slightly to capture our pat-down.
Hester said the camera only recorded the airport ceiling and is reviewing the footage to see if there is any audio worth posting.
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1) I would love it if all officers wore cameras. Hopefully that would better protect citizens, the officers themselves, and we the tax payers from having to shell out more money to pay for cop's mistakes. I also hope that the officers would be informed that they should expect to be recorded by citizens as well, but I'm not holding my breath.
2) He probably shut it down since he is now writing for Pixiq. That would be my guess.
1) It's a start but i take issue with
"can activate them with a simple flick of a switch."
Also where is the video stored? Cops tend to lose incriminating evidence.
The problem arises when they start recording on private property. Owners rights need to be protected as well. There can be a policy in place about asking permission to record, but we all know how policy, and law, is more or less ignored by police on a daily basis.
If you don't want your property recorded don't allow the officer in.
There is noting now stooping a officer from wearing a camera and recording there interactions now.
No, the problem is the policy instituted under Obama of homosexual molestation of airline passengers, including minors by TSA agents in the name of "security". Funny how Israel, a country that is very security conscious does not follow this policy.
The TSA doesn't like it when people want to film what they are doing so they lie to try and prevent it. "Private property" is not relevant here, the TSA are federal agents not private security guards and their policy clearly states that they can be filmed.
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Perfectly acceptable to harass this guy.
Remember, the Sept 11 hijackers were well-known for shoving matches and general hell-raising
over 1st Amendment rights at airport security lines.
No, it's not "perfectly acceptable" to harass him and I'm fucking sick of 911 being dragged out as an excuse for every obnoxious and vile action by the government against U.S. citizens.
You want to talk 911, those guys could have been stopped and it would not have been necessary to give them a ball squeeze/porno x-ray show.
1st fail - Those guys had expired student visas. Why the fuck were they still here? If they had been deported as they should have been 911 could have been thwarted before it got started.
2nd fail - I know we are all supposed to love each other, sing kumbaya and be oh so very politically correct at all times, but didn't a bunch of middle eastern guys taking flight lessons but not taking the part of the course on how to land planes look suspicious to ANYONE?
3rd (and most egregious) - They had box cutters, from what I read maybe even knives or worse? Box cutters are metal, you don't need to squeeze someones balls or boobs to find them, a decent screening with a metal detector should have picked them up.
I agree that someone screaming racism and "are you profiling me" should not be cause for a no search walk through, but a metal detector and normal pat down should be enough.
Yet another incident in which the underpaid TSA's try to flex their non-existent muscle. This is a bit old, but I still find it very funny, and sad all at the same time: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-safety-security/606142-i-detained-...
DON'T get me started on the TSA! They're the worst government agency we have. In several recent polls they were voted to the bottom of the list (or in this case #1 worst). The IRS was even voted MORE loved than them.
If you really want your eyes opened on the TSA, go here..
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-safety-security-222/
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