ABC News brings more attention to the videotaping police/wiretapping issue


ABC News is the latest national mainstream media news organization to address the growing epidemic of cops using wiretapping charges to arrest people videotaping them.

And as in the previous cases, Photography is Not a Crime gets a link, a mention and I even get a quote in.

In the last few weeks, USA Today, The Washington Post (article and editorial) and NPR’s Talk of the Nation have addressed the issue.

Also on a more local level, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported last week that the Allegheny County district attorney’s office settled a federal lawsuit by agreeing to redistribe a memo to police departments explaining that it is not against the law to videotape a cops on duty.

Unfortunately, memos don’t seem to make a difference because an Oregon police chief who received a similar memo from the city attorney vowed that these arrests would continue.

All this media coverage was probably what prompted U.S. Congressman Ed Towns last week to introduce a resolution to protect citizens against these arrests.

From what I’ve learned, a resolution is merely a ceremonial gesture that doesn’t carry much legislative weight.

But nothing happens overnight in Congress. The fact that a Congressman even made the effort to address the issue is a move in the right direction.

However, now it’s up to us to keep the momentum going by reaching out to the rest of Congress.

The first step is to create a national database of where these incidents have taken place.

Radley Balko, senior editor of Reason Magazine, suggested we create a map as he did when we worked at the Cato Institute to address the epidemic of botched police raids.

The question is, should we just limit the map to where people have been charged with wiretapping charges for videotaping cops or should we include all photography harassment, including at the hands of security guards?

I prefer the latter, only because it will really demonstrate that this is a regular occurrence.

Let me know what you think and what we can do to get more Congressional attention.

Comments

Anonymous
Anonymous

You should include the harassment cases, though probably in a different color. Or, it should be viewable through a particular filter.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Please include all that you can.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes, I agree about using different colors for different types of incidents.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I agree with Drew, do it similar to the map that you linked to where you have different types of harassment and arrests in different colors. Also if possible, sort it by year similar to how that map did it as well.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Include Everything and have different colors for the different things.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I’m a bit unclear here, doesn’t the city attorney overrule the police chief when it comes to how arrests will be handled?

Or, put another way, if the city attorney not only refuses to prosecute anyone arrested solely for videotaping the police, but also starts charging the officers under whatever false arrest or misuse of police authority statutes apply to the municipality it would probably break the police of this particular habit very quickly, no?
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Anonymous
Anonymous

Kudos. Keep up the great work, Carlos.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

I’m with Ricky, have a nice color code and split the symbol when more than one group is involved and have like filters

1.) federal
2.) state and local
3.) government contractors
4.) contractors working for private organizations

Anonymous
Anonymous

Cops arresting photographers is apparently an old tradition… NYT, from 1883:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9903E3DF1431E433A25757C1A...

Anonymous
Anonymous

The map… include security guards. They usually think they’re enforcing a law, or at least “protecting” it from cameras due to 9/11 or whatever.

They’re nearly the same nuisance as cops, because they generally resort to calling the cops in when you don’t leave.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I think a color coded map for the different types p incidents that is easily search-able and has filters. Here is what the police use in LA to show stats on local crime: http://www.lapdcrimemaps.org/

Google has some great tools to start your own custom maps.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I’d include all relevant incidents, with different coding; include dates, and links to web pages where possible.

I’ve been told not to photograph because of security concerns, in public view places in downtown LA and Union Station/Metrorail. In both cases I knew they were wrong, and I didn’t push the issue, but I did feel intimidated.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

Please give this guy a shot. He’s been busting his butt for well over a year and a half and doesn’t get the attention his much needed project deserves. He’s already got the database with police misconduct and can make the maps.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

These are sad events, denoting sad times, when it appears that before one even steps out of one’s door, it is incumbent upon them to carry along with them an active video camera, or some other device to record everyday situations; however, this doesn’t come without some risk of being harassed or arrested by public officials, who *should* be subjected to public scrutiny whenever they are on duty.

What a blow to individual freedom!
What a sad testament to how far we have allowed our citizens’ rights to vanish, seemingly overnight, since the tragic events of September 11th, 2001.

I don’t know who “writes this stuff”, but I do know that I’m finding it harder and harder every day to ignore it. I can’t change the channel, and make it go away. There is nothing that the media can produce which will distract me from the current problems we ALL face regarding our personal privacy.

Since when did my life go Hollywood?
(I think that is the thinking of our public officials, but it might have first been explained to them that should they wish to have a public job (i.e. police, politician, firefighter, etc.) then they should expect to be scrutinized in a public way, while on duty, and nothing less.

They are, after all, on OUR payroll, and not the other way around.
Cheers.
O. Black

Anonymous
Anonymous

I’m with J on consulting with David Packman over at Injustice Everywhere (http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/). He already has a larger database of police misconduct reports and might be amenable to carving out a special category for photography issues. His project deserves more attention considering the caliber of reporting he’s offering pretty well everyday.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Injustice Everywhere already does this. Perhaps you should reach out to them?

http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com

Anonymous
Anonymous

I took all sorts of pictures of a female Torrance police woman in uniform on the corner of Hawthorn and Pacific Coast Highway,– that’s where I like to buy Middleeastern food. She had a very nice butt. Two male cops watched me take the pictures of her and just smiled and giggled. She didn’t know she was being photographed. The male cops knew why I was taking the pictures.

Anonymous
Anonymous

You could split according to different criteria:

Claimed offense: (1) Wiretapping (2) Terrorism (3) Disorderly conduct (4) Other.

Source of the harassment (1) Local/State police (2) Federal (3) Private security (4) Prosecutor (5) Other (Union members, private citizens, members of congress…)

Anonymous
Anonymous

The map should include different colored tacs, or whatever you call them. Have one for areas with multiple police/security incidents.

One thing that should happen is that when one places their cursor over the tac, a click-able and scroll-able window should pop up. That window would be separated into the types of incidents (police/security). The headlines should say: Harassment incident of Billy Bob. That wording should be a clickable link. Once clicked, it would open a webpage with information about that case. There should be a way for folks to post follow-up links so people can see if there has been any resolution (helpful in cases where there is an arrest and/or civil lawsuit filed).

Anonymous
Anonymous

By all means include the “mere harassment” cases. Those present their own particular danger precisely because they do not result in any sort of paper trail and so are more hidden – but the chilling effect can be the same, especially as such incidents are likely considerably more common than actual arrests.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

Umm, I think any category you use should be free of bias. If you want to be a taken seriously, you should stick with “just the facts”. There is no reason to think the officer or cameraman was in the wrong. Just state what happened in each incident and provide links for photographs, media coverage, police reports…etc.

Anonymous
Anonymous

This ABC News story has been linked from drudgereport.com: “Growing Number of Prosecutions for Videotaping the Police… National Guardsman faces 16 years for filming cop…”

Lots of eyeballs on it today.

Anonymous
Anonymous

There was also a segment on FOX News today about the MD case

Anonymous
Anonymous

Wow. I’d never even heard of this until I heard you on KGO-AM (SF Bay Area) today. I’m not the skittish type, but this… this kinda scares me. Better believe I’ll be following this; I’ve got too few civil rights as it is!

(I’m from a place with a rather… adversarial relationship with the police. When I was growing up, everybody knew that if you ever saw a PO talking to someone from the block, you stopped what you were doing and stood there, conspicuously staring— you made sure they knew there was a witness. You don’t outgrow that. Need I say more?)

Thanks so much for all your work, Carlos.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Not a lawyer, but found a news report on a federal case that might be relevant: http://thenewspaper.com/news/05/541.asp Conviction for something like this overturned, large damages awarded, and the cops had to pay some of those damages personally. Thought you’d want to know…

Anonymous
Anonymous

Good Work!
If the police weren’t doing anything wrong, the wouldn’t be afraid of cameras in the first place.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Include them all, just color code them like the other site does. One color for harassment of photography only, another for videotaping, a different one for actual arrests, another for charges, and so on. This will help make it really clear there’s problems on many different levels and that it’s widespread.

Anonymous
Anonymous

“First they came for our guns, but the liberals said nothing, because they don’t have any guns. Then they came for our cameras…”

Anonymous
Anonymous

I think we’ve established the different color thing…. if you’re looking for labor to help, shout out.

@r3VOLitionist777: Dogs didn’t bark either… liberalism has nothing to do with 2nd amendment philosophies…. ur letting the media redefine words. Orthogonal ideas. Can you *find* correlation? Course. But I am sure I can statistically correlate sun flares with ice cream consumption. Everyone wants a a ‘bad guy’, or to blame everything on the ‘guy’ they think is bad. Don’t be a victim.

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