Pixiq

What danger was the officer in when he used the taser the second time? The man was on the ground and had just complied with the order to roll onto his stomach.

Isn't it ironic that the old woman is telling the videographer to mind his own business? Do you think it was the fact that he stated the man had mental issues that prompted her to stick her nose into things or the fact that he was recording the event?

That guy is just low class. Regardless of recording video or not hoping for pain and misfortune of others just so you can get some kicks is just wrong.

As for the woman, it sounded to me like she saw things from the beginning. That somehow him hassling some other woman and not jumping high enough when he was ordered to by the officer was enough to justify getting tasered.

The bystander saying "totally awesome" to the tazing is a nice touch, but it's the cop shouting "don't move" just after administering a shock which would cause most people to writhe in discomfort that's really classy.

The video does not show everything that happened, nor can you hear the orders being given by the officer. The videographer argued with the woman about the guy being mentally handicapped. If he put his arms up when ordered, he would be equally capable of putting them down when ordered. Furthermore, if the guy does not comply, there is no reason an officer should roll around on the ground with him and try to physically restrain him while risking personal injury to himself. He WAS suspected of a crime ( no matter how silly of one ) and therefore was given lawful orders by the officer who was most likely in the process of having the man lower his arms and turn around so that he could be handcuffed. This would have not only protected the officer but probably the man as well. Even if he did not end up taking him to jail, he could have atleast talked to him, or had someone qualified to work with the handicapped come to assist.

With that said, the charges were clearly bogus ( unless there was more before or after the video which you do not see ), and the second tasing while the guy was on the ground was absurd as well.

Regarding the Nosy Nancy at the end, *everything* police
do is our business. You wanna know why?
We pay their salaries.

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever. George Orwell

This videographer is really the lowest of the low. First he delights on getting the tasering on video. THEN he goes out and tells the officer the person is mentally ill. If he was so concerned about this person why didn't he go out and tell the officer right away. This may have prevented a tasering. Also, we don't know what, if anything, this man said to the officer that may have prompted the officer to tase him. What if he said something like, "I have a gun in my pants and I'm going to take it out and shoot you." Then the tasering would be fully justified. There are plenty of mentally ill people in society who can function well enough that others can not immediately tell they are ill. This could be the case here. To automatically castigate the officer for tasering this person is wrong.

Carlos, did you happen to backup this video? It appears to have been taken down by the uploader.

Inspector: that's it...blame the guy with the camera
for the abuse.

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Guy in airport with video calling TSA-holes out on their gestapo shit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwyUI1GIjKs&feature=related

The officer was alone and trying to take this guy into custody. If the suspect wasn't listening to the officer's directions, tasing him is much safer than rushing in and trying to force the guy to turn around and get his hands behind his back.

All the peanut gallery in this video saw was a guy with his hands in the air and everyone is trained by the movies to think that means everything is done. Of course that's not how real life works.

I'm curious why OC (pepper spray) has gone out of vogue and the expensive, occasionally deadly Taser is the new toy of choice. Each shot costs, as far as I know - unless they've made re-usable cartridges. Seems that they couldn't, though, because of health issues of tasing a second person after the probes have been stuck into another.

Why would OC not be appropriate in this, or most other tasing cases we've seen here, unless they were in closed, confined areas?

(no snark intended here - I only want to learn)

Mental retardation is not mental illness. The OP kept saying the guy had a mind of a two-year old but using both terms interchangeably.

Thanks for the info JL.

This is the kind of trash that we the people need to get rid off. A criminal on the loose called a cop. We never should forget the faces of the bastards and execute them once we are free,it wont take long till it happens and we all are going to take care of them one by one, we all know of their whereabouts and see if the Rockefellers, Bushes, Clintons and Rothschilds are going to save their asses, lets wait and see, and i hope it happens soon. Bastards!!!

Every cop is a criminal!! Simply put!! No apologies! Modern day law enforcement agencies from the local yokel level all the way up to federal level are brutish, violent (with no provocation necessary), and ignorant of state and federal constitutions. What was once considered in my youth as peace officers; are now brute apes with no sense of compassion.

Time to water the tree.

Photographer should have called 911 and told dispatcher what was going on, and that its being recorded. I saw that stop a televised beating in Cleveland instantly.

This cop is in for a big lawsuit and he won't have qualified immunity. In Bryan v. MacPherson, 608. F.3d 614, 618 (9th Cir. 2010), the Ninth Circuit, of which Arizona is a part, ruled that an officer can not use an Electronic Control Device (ECD or Taser) against a suspect who is not exhibiting assualtive behavior and poses no imminent threat to officers or others. Simply refusing orders is not sufficient cause to deploy a Taser.

In that case, an officer Tasered a mentally ill man who was pulled over on a traffic stop, got out of his car, was swearing, shouting "gibberish" and expletives and hitting himself on his thighs. Clearly this man's behavior doesn't even rise to that level. And considering the underlying crime of disorderly conduct--which the court found must be taken into account--this level of force is not justified.

My sense is that since this officer is part of a small tribal police department which patrols a casino and two shopping centers, (the tribe only has 180 members) they are totally inexperienced and apparently unprofessional. In the article, the Police Lieutenant is quoted as saying that they "don't participate in media interviews." Excuse me? A police department that doesn't talk to the media?

In any event, this guy won't have to beg for money much longer. He's gonna get some casino cash in several months time.

The police are trained to use the taser to subdue uncooperative suspect because a taser is LESS likely to cause injury to the suspect than a physical take down or pepperspray would. It has nothing to do with self defense. It has to do with taking a person into custody in the safest way for both the cop and the suspect.
Though there are 100s of web site claming other wise, there have only been a few cases were a tasers has been sited by a coroner as a “possible contributing factor” in a death. And only a couple sited “cause of death” A 200+ lb police officer slamming you to the ground is much more dangerous.

Shot this Tuesday night while in Charleston, SC. I don't blame the police for using a Taser in this situation. He had already placed his hands on a cop, was coming at them and was bigger than any one of them. He even asked them to Taser him. Also, although I didn't start taping until near the end of the situation, the cops were quite patient and were just trying to talk to him until he started coming at him. Also, they gave me no issues about videotaping, although my fear of being harassed for videotaping is why I waited so long to pull out my camera. Still, I would like to see other less dangerous methods of subduing people like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8ghlzkeqN8