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Wow! It just keeps getting better and better for Grant’s family. The fact that ex-BART cop Johannes Mehserle made a run for it, certainly doesn’t help his case. Even after all of this, a lot of cops are still trying to defend his actions on policelink.com. It is really pathetic and shameful that policelink doesn’t moderate that type of behavior. They’ll ban anyone that leans slightly anti-LEO, but they’ll cheer for anyone gloating and justifying the actions of a fellow LEO that is clearly in the wrong. Truly pathetic.

Now, it appears that Mehserle defense will be that in all of the chaos he pulled out his sidearm to cover Oscar while he was being handcuffed and searched for weapons, and the weapon just accidently went off because of muscle memory.

I sure wished that Grant’s family would have sued for more money. $25 mil doesn’t even seem enough at all.

The cops from policelink are welcome to come to this blog and share their feelings. I won’t ban them.

Leoaffairs.com is a great site for internal police department opinions as well. Mostly cops but non cops can view posts.

Hi John,
Thanks for the info. Does Leoaffairs.com censor civilized intelligent posts that happen to not agree with the pro-LEO community?

There’s a candle light vigil tonight in Leimert Park for Oscar Grant – http://leimertpark.ning.com/events/oscar-grant-candlelight-vigil

TwoSocks-

I haven’t tested the water on posting an anti-LEO views there. Quite honestly, I think that is a bad idea. You won’t find but a miniscule fraction of officers who would defend what happened to Grant. Yelling at the good ones will only anger them and eventually lead them to close the site to us non-LEO types.

It seems to be very much a cop’s website with the exchange of info. on jobs/salaries as well as internal gripes left by beat cops against management. That is what’s great about the site. You can lurk about and get a sense of what’s going on in each department. Thanks to the Miami New Times for leading me to it.

I hear you John, but the deletions and bannings are really bad over on policelink.com. Just to give you an example. I posted a harmless question where I basically said, “It seems that most people here believe what happened to Grant was an accident. Then I read that someone saids that they hope the Lord will lead the investigation to the correct decision. Then I asked harmlessly what people generally thought the correct decision should be?” I was immediately banned, and my post deleted without any explanation whatsoever.

The policelink.com webmaster probably thought that you were trying to draw some cops into an argument. An argument that could very well end someone’s career.

Cops are paid to enforce laws to everyone equally, not to express opinions about those laws or the people they enforce them against.

While you and I both know that the ideal of a dispassionate, robotic cop is a fiction -that doesn’t mean that society will not hold police to that ridiculous standard.

Some black cops hate white people. Some white cops hate black people. I’m OK with both of them on duty as long as they both know that their personal prejudice will not be accepted in the application of law and that if it does, they will be hung by their balls and beaten like a human pinata.

John,
You would be surprised at how much they run their mouths over there especially when it’s off to the side and not directly in public view. It is virtually no holds barred for cops. The only taboo that I could see was them making physical threats toward anyone in particular. They’re at least smart enough to not cross that boundary.

“Cops are paid to enforce laws to everyone equally”
You forgot to say except for themselves. Remember the thin blue line and the fact that they have “Professional Courtesy”.

they have “Professional Courtesy”…

True, very true. But no different than lawyers, doctors or any other professional affinity group. If it’s for traffic tickets it doesn’t bother me but for crimes where other people are involved – big difference.

John, what are you talking about? Lawyers, doctors, and professionals are not extended “Professional Courtesy” by cops. I know, because I happen to be a professional. It isn’t just for petty traffic tickets either. I’m also talking about more serious crimes like DUIs. I happen to know that siblings of cops have been issued badges and given “Professional Courtesy”. I find it a little disturbing that you don’t seem to have a problem with cops not issuing traffic tickets because of professional courtesy. If corruption is built-in at the lowest seemingly harmless level, I wonder what happens for the more serious crimes.

TwoSocks,

I understand your point about not accepting any sort of corruption but I guess I am a pragmatist at heart and feel it is impossible to eliminate all corruption. Parking tickets don’t bother me. Siblings getting badges and overlooking DUIs bothers me because that effects you and I, possibly even threatening our lives. I guess you could call it the Pareto Principal of corruption reduction. Focus on the 20% of corruption that causes 80% of the damage.

One reason I admire Carlos (even though politically we are probably complete opposites) is that he is a man of principal. Being that way means that you take some knocks along the way, but it also means that you can look at yourself in the mirror with self-respect.

If you know of someones brother who has been issued a badge or of a DUI being overlooked it is your duty to report that to Internal Affairs.

John,
The badge is not a real police badge. It saids a “Brother of a Police Officer” on it. Other than that, it looks like a badge in a leather billfold. It was issued to a friend of mine by his sister who is a cop. He uses it all of the time to get out of sticky situations. From him, I got the impression that everyone did this.

I used to have a cop friend years and years ago. We would go out drinking all night. I would let him drive us back home. We were pulled over 3 times for drunk driving, but nothing ever came of it. This “professional courtesy” worked everywhere as far as I remember.

I don’t think this cop was trying to run, hes just fears death, but enjoys exacting it.If he stayed he would have got shot up, ahahahahah.