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what does she need to do to get the video camera back?

Legally, all it should take is for her to walk into the police station with the document in her hand and ask for it.

But you never know what obstacles they will come up with.

The statement from the prosecuting attorney is brief and to the point yet it says much about the validity of the officers actions – based soley on the statements and reports from the police, their actions were invalid.

Very telling.

That paper is her ticket to damages, should she sue.

I hope you post unedited video, not like the code pink video.

Jones, you were wrong. Now go cry in a corner without the whole “spoiled grapes” syndrome you seem to have.

I note that you can’t concede that you were wrong, as well.

Those were very strong words for the State Attorney to use, “that the officers were acting in the lawful execution of a legal duty.” Shy of issuing charges against the officers that’s about as bad a slap in the face the State Attorney can give them.

Jones, that means that the police didn’t have the “right” or the “power” to do what they did to Ms. Ford.

Who cares if we see edited video or not. The cop that shoved the Code Pinker was in the wrong also. He exceeded his powers in that action also.

Gene, tell me what I was wrong about and if your right I’ll concede. The only thing I remember saying about this is that this lady was being a poor parent that night, that she didn’t do her child any favors by acting the way she did.

Jones, that means that the police didn’t have the “right” or the “power” to do what they did to Ms. Ford.

No, that means they couldn’t prove they had the right or the power to do what they did because they couldn’t prove beyond a reasonable doubt she broke the law.

uh, it never went to trial. the reasonable doubt thing is for a jury.

Passing muster is what these officer’s actions couldn’t do.

She was well within her rights as a parent, as a citizen, and as someone with a camera. that is what you were wrong about, jones.

Yes, it is well within her rights to act like a damn fool, never said it wasn’t. Gene you really need to take a reading comprehension class.

I don’t think she acted like a fool.

She acted like a parent that was concerned that this officer was doing his utmost to arrest her child on some made up charges. I’ve seen this in other places, cop decides your kid is bad and does everything he can to arrest the kid over and over.

It was the officers that were acting like fools with the charges they filed against her and that’s what the state’s attorney said. She’ll get a lot of money out of the city over this one. It will be another expensive lesson for the city. Will the cops involved learn anything. Probably not.

I doubt that they will learn anything with people like jones fellating cops.

Well thanks to the mom, the kid probably learned it’s ok to steal because my mom has my back.

It was only alleged that the child was stealing. We don’t have any facts to support that allegation.

We do have some facts to support that the officers didn’t act within the color of their uniform however.

According to the police report, the teen admitted trespassing. Of course, this incident makes anything the cops say questionable.

Jones is apparently under the increasingly (and alarmingly) prevalent belief that alleged criminals are guilty until proven innocent, and not the other way around. If it’s illegal for people to be videotaped withouth their explicit knowledge, then how is it legal for a police cruiser to have a camera running without deliberately notifying everyone they drive behind, and/or pull over that they are on camera? Oh, that’s right, I forgot. Police, government officials, etc, are above the law. We poor, stupid, illiterate, and incredibly dangerous civilians are the only ones who have to live by the law.

It’s ok to have surveilance cameras without posting signs, to have traffic cameras, ATM cameras, satellite cameras, camera phones, etc, but if a citizen records cops doing something they don’t want to be seen doing, all of a sudden it’s a felony? And of course, “ignorance of the law is no excuse!” Even when the laws each individual is expected to abide by every day of their lives are so numerous a person can’t physically read them all without giving up their job, hobbies, and family life to devote every waking hour to reading legal code.

Habeas Corpus – Apparently you don’t know how to read. I never once defended these officers for arresting this woman. I never once said it is illegal to videotape people in public without their knowledge, way to put words in my mouth.

What I have said about this story, and still say, is that she acted like an idiot. She was acting without her child’s best interest in mind. She wasn’t acting like a responsible parent.

This isn’t a normal reaction to your child being arrested. To show up and immediately confront the police without even asking your kid if he did what they are accusing him or asking the police what happened is insane. Legal but insane.

Even if you think the police are wrong, show up, act normal, get your kid out of there without charges, which is probably what would have happened if she wasn’t acting like a nut. Take the time to actually talk to your kid and find out what happened and then take it up with their supervisors if you feel they did something wrong.

Jones,

I don’t know where it was said that this is not the first incident in 3 short months that they have had with these officers. Do you think that maybe that colored the reaction by the mother?

Do you think that previous attempts by the police to harass these people may have something to do with reaction?

So are you almost done editing the video or what, I thought you were going to post it.

I don’t have it yet. She needs to send it to me.

She is probably too embarrassed to release it

What is that officer on my right doing? Is he scratching an itch or is he actually reaching for some type of holstered weapon? I do know how to read but might have missed it if it was already stated.

Although it may be innocent the posture of the black female is the standard posture police are taught prior to drawing a weapon. Same with martial artists. The theory is is you present your body at an angle there is less of a target than if you are facing them ‘squared off’.(Note the officer on my right is in similar posture) where as the dude on the left who is obviously not reaching is squared.

The officer on my left seems slightly amused and not alarmed as one should expect when someone threatens you with violence of a camera – hmmm

I want to thank everyone for there support. We have gone into our first phase of this most embarrassing situation. All the advise you gave me, I appreciated so much. Also, the charges against my son were dropped too. He never entered the movie theater that day, yet the cops say they have video of him doing so….hmmm. C

oops “their suppport”.