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For my money Pogan’s supervisor should take a big portion of the blame. Fer chrissake the guy had been on the force for 11 days and his supervisor tell him to “do what it takes” to cite the bicyclists.

He is desperate. Where he’s going, child molesters are treated better.prison could mean death.

“another video” link is only to a newspaper coverage of the same information, not to another video.

The other video is actually at the top of the post.

I had originally linked the NY Post story to that link but the NY Times provided more details. Plus, they also mention the video.

Evidently this bicycling event is a monthly thing that IS causing problems for traffic in NYC but the NYPD’s approach to the problem is manifestly WRONG! The police chief and perhaps the mayor need to sit down with the leaders of the event and see if some agreements can be ironed out that solve the traffic safety issues.

What really gets me about this is that there were so many cameras present. You can see the cameras in the video.

I’m sure there are plenty of other videos out there of the same incident.

Yet these cops didn’t think twice about assaulting somebody and falsifying the report?

This cop needs to go to prison to really send out a message.

Where Pogan’s at, his only hope is a dumb jury feeling sorry for him.
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I hope he’s headed for Sing Sing. He’ll have to suck a lot of prisoner penis if he wants to have any chance of survival.

I disagree Carlos. What REALLY sends out a message is when the city gets slammed for MILLIONS of dollars in punative damages. Then, and only then, will they start to get serious about weeding out the bad apples from their PD’s. They’ll also get serious about properly training police recruits so this kind of thing starts to fade into the distant past.

Don’t discount that possibility!!

There have been massive payouts before. It hasn’t changed cop attitudes or improved the chain of command. Time to put these criminals in PMITA prison.

Oh, I’m not. That’s all the defense has going for it (aside from the “didn’t type it in” defense on the report, I mean, come ON) and I’m sure they’ll go all out for it.
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The city paid millions in abuse cases like the Abner Loiuma, the cops were sent up the river for life sentences. Nothing changed. Cops are completely immune here. Even if this cop goes to jail for the rest of his life, nothing will change.

The only thing that will make a difference is if the RATE of cops being caught and punished increases. It’s nothing if a one-off cop or two is punished. But if cop after cop after cop is punished, almost on a daily basis, then that will make a difference.

The one tool that makes that difference a possibility is the camera.

Why not both?

ABA Model Code of Professional Responsibility
CANON 7-A Lawyer Should Represent a Client Zealously Within the Bounds of the Law.

Carlos, you can’t fault the attorney for doing his job. No doubt the cop needs to go up the river.
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ABA Model Code of Professional Responsibility
CANON 7-A Lawyer Should Represent a Client Zealously Within the Bounds of the Law.

Carlos, you can’t fault the attorney for doing his job. No doubt the cop needs to go up the river where he’ll surely end up taking a long walk down the ole dirt road on a regular basis…
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The expanded use of cameras is great. But to take things to the proper level, copies of the recordings like this need to be sent immediately to an agency that can initiate an investigation. It is essential to keep any knowledge of the submission from the involved department. Blindside their asses.

If this problem isn’t put into check there will be a time when a police officer’s character and safety won’t be worth squat. It shouldn’t be that way.

DB, I applaud your genius!

I’m with you straw buyer, I’ve always believed anybody accused of a serious crime deserved COMPETENT legal counsel. Many years ago my father was accused of a sex crime and could not afford an attorney so the court appointed him one, a TAX lawyer!! That’s always sorta stuck in my craw.

Here’s a plausible twist. Force some of the responsibilty and sanctions uphill. That’ll help put more control on dipshits like that.

It always makes me giggle a bit when I hear cops saying that they they were provoked. You would think they would learn by now, with all the lawsuits filed over the last 2 decades, that contempt of cop isn’t a crime.

This cop, like 95% of all the cops I have met, is a pig, and should get punished to the fullest extent of the law.

If and when they go to prison, the rest of the inmate poulation should be made fully aware that they were cops and were convicted and placed there for that kind of crap. Their lives would be so wonderful. Don’t drop the soap, ex-officer.

I can’t agree that 95% of all cops are “pigs”, I’ve met far to many of them who were really decent folk to make that kind of generalisation. Let’s not paint all of them with a big broad brush.

“This cop, like 95% of all the cops I have met, is a pig,”

Rusty, I was only referring to cops that I have met personally.

My bad, I should’ve read it closer.

S.C. says, “In the Abner Loiuma case cops were sent up the river for life sentences.”

Just to set the record straight. ONE cop got 30 years. The cop that helped him only got 5 years and has been out of prison since 2007. Three other cops that were found guilty of covering up the crime were completely exonerated by an Appeals Court judge that said there wasn’t enough evidence for a reasonable jury to convict.

“COMPETENT legal counsel”

Rusty, isn’t that an oxymoron?
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Not at all, there’s lots of damned good lawyers in the game but the ones we hear about through our wonderful media are the ones that screw up or have a horn growing out of the middle of their foreheads.

He was trying to run him over??? Then why did the cop move into him ahead of time. Straight bullshit. The lawyer is just doing his job…which is part of the problem. Looking for loopholes out of the law. Fuckhats.
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the defense attorney’s job is to fool the jury. the prosecution’s job is to make sure the jury, although dumb as a hat, doesn’t fall for it.

The only thing that can ruin this case is if the arrest report, video, and witnesses weren’t allowed to be seen/heard/shown/etc.

Rusty Carr said in part..

“I’ve met far to many of them who were really decent folk….”

If that’s the case, then why is it they most always take the side of their Brothers in Blue when situations like this happen?

You can’t have it both ways. If a fellow cop is doing something wrong, he’s doing something wrong.. and the fact that you keep quiet and not say anything makes you just a guilty as they are.

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Genewitch wrote: “the defense attorney’s job is to fool the jury. the prosecution’s job is to make sure the jury, although dumb as a hat, doesn’t fall for it.”

Some of the fairy tales made up by prosecuters have nothing to do with reality but are merely mechanisms to fool the jury. Prosecuters and defense attorneys can both walk on either side of the street.

Rail Car Fan wrote: “If that’s the case, then why is it they most always take the side of their Brothers in Blue when situations like this happen?”

Its called the “Serpico syndrome”.

I’ll have to admit here that almost all of my life I’ve lived in small towns or relatively small cities. If I’d spent my life in Chicago, New York, or New Orleans I’m sure my attitude would be a lot more negative in this regard.

genewitch wrote: “the prosecution’s job is to make sure the jury, although dumb as a hat, doesn’t fall for it.”

You’re over-generalizing quite a bit here. I would much rather take my chances with a jury, than with a biased judge. Someday you might serve jury duty, where you may need to make a tough determination of guilt/innocence. You wouldn’t call yourself “dumb as a hat” would you?

No problem. I have met a few decent cops with alot of integrity (I even dated one for a while), but I have met far more who had more shady tendencies.

I’m a Police Officer myself and this is totally uncalled for, this is the stuff that makes my work harder and harder every day.

Unfortunately this happens too often! ;-(

Cops are authoritarian fascist pigs that believe they are above the law. Police Officers do their duty to uphold the law, while serving and protecting the citizens of their community.

I commend you for being a Police Officer, not a Cop, and hope that if you see incidents like this within your department, that you won’t be silent about it.

Wow! wrote: “I’m a Police Officer myself and this is totally uncalled for, this is the stuff that makes my work harder and harder every day. Unfortunately this happens too often! ;-(”

Its really good to have an LEO wade in and stand up for 1st Amendment rights. Thank you so much.

We are hearing more about cops harassing bicyclists. NYPD stole hundreds of bikes because they deemed them a threat to Obama driving by. There is nothing in our miserable lives as americans that the government won’t control and restrict. It’s disheartening that hundreds of thousands of men and women take up the job of performing those restrictions. Even more disappointing that millions more support them.

Theywantyoufired said – “NYPD stole hundreds of bikes because they deemed them a threat to Obama driving by. ”

Are you serious? The President’s car is so heavily armored an RPG wouldn’t hurt it. A tank would have a hard time penetrating the 8 inch thick armor of the beast, and they’re worried about a few bicycles??!! Ridiculous.

Well now c’mon Rance, you KNOW them bicyclists are heavily infiltrated with Al Quaiduh!

lol

But hey, not every place is all about smashing Critical Mass:

http://community.livejournal.com/bikepirates/3599784.html

Seriously, it’s only as contentious as the people involved.
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