Florida Deputy Tries To Intimidate Man From Recording Traffic Stop
Here’s a video I should have posted two weeks ago, but it fell between the cracks.
It was shot by Photography is Not a Crime commenter HONORYOUROATH, so many of you have seen it already.
He posted it on my Facebook wall January 13 and I even commented that I would take a look at it, but I never got around to checking it out. Until today when I was looking for something else on Facebook.
But it’s a brilliant video highlighting just how to handle cops when they try to intimidate you from recording them in public.
Basically, a Clay County (Fl.) deputy spots him video recording them conducting a traffic stop from across the street, so the deputy crosses the street and demands his identification, which he refuses to hand over.
Then the second deputy comes over and tells the first deputy, "He wasn't interfering with anything, so I'm not sweating it."
Of course, there is a lot of interesting interaction in between. It's a must-watch video.
Please send stories, tips and videos to carlosmiller@magiccitymedia.com
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Comments
The first guy was a bit in the wrong, but didn't do anything nefarious or lie other than make requests that were not neeed, but at least it didn't become an order. The second guy handeled it with class, answering quetions and just finding out what was happening and identified himself and the first cop when requested. we need more of this kind of character to be in charge an interacting with the public.
The first guy did not give his name and badge number when asked.
Wonderful!
The videographer also didn't have to answer the question when the deputy asked if the nearby car was his. He was free to decline, just as he was free to decline to show his license.
By the way, the word "puzzled" is misspelled at the start of the video. Should be easy enough to correct for further posting.
Good points Phred. I kick my self every time I see that part. I should have responded by saying "I'm not answering any more questions".
I also mispelled person (persone). I usually manage to misspell at least two words per video....wait a second did I just misspell misspelled?
Oh and I just realized I've been misspelling Fred all my life! HA HA.
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I thought you did a great job. I've never been approached by the cops, but if I ever am, I hope I handle things as well as you do. Thanks for your work!
It might have been good to say to the second officer.
Sir, if you have just a minute, I'd like to show you how the deputy approached this situation, after I've showed you that I'll be on my way and leave you to discuss that between yourselves.
Good Point SteelToad.I tried to send an email to the Clay County Sheriff's Office but I couldn't find an email link. So I sent an email to Chief Musco of the Green Cove Springs Police Department.Chief Musco then forwarded it to the Sheriff. Here is the correspondence.
HONORYOUROATH,
Thank you for the insight, and I look forward to your next posting of a GCSPD Officer. Additionally, I have forwarded your video to a Command Officer at CCSO for review. I was impressed by Sergeant Williams demeanor and I know he spent some time instructing Deputy Krow regarding your constitutional right to video tape.
Chief Robert A. Musco
Green Cove Springs Police Department
205 Spring Street
Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
(904) 529-2251
Rmusco@gcspd.com
www.GCSPD.com
From: Teresa Gray [mailto:tgray9937@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 12:05 AM
To: Rmusco@gcspd.com
Subject: Your Officers sure looked better than Deputy Krow! (HONORYOUROATH)
http://www.youtube.com/user/HONORYOUROATH?feature=mhee#p/u
I have a video of another one of your officers looking good.I just haven't uploaded it yet.
I’m calling the video, GCSPD vs Reverse Bate Car.(your officer wins)
God Bless and stay safe ,
HONORYOUROATH
Here is a link to contact info, including emails, for all Sheriff's in Florida:
http://fogwatchauditors.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/florida-sheriffs.pdf
If you'd like cell numbers just let me know and I'll pass those along as well. If you need contact info for other state and local agencies they are posted on www.FOGWatch.org.
Nice job, by the way.
Thank You!!!
This is now book marked.
Anytime. I have the contact info for hundreds, perhaps thousands of public officials in Florida. If anyone needs to make contact with them let me know and I'll give you what I have.
Wow what an honor to have my video posted on PINAC!!!
Thank you Carlos!
Hey Honoryouroath,
You seemed pretty calm, some might have gotten a little worried.
What do the two flags mean on the back left of your car?
haha that first cop had no idea that you could legally refuse to provide identification.. what a fuckin idiot.
nice video man! I like the Don't Tread On Me sticker on the back of your car.
There are some genuinely classy cops out there, my hat's off to the guy.
One piece of advice, don't park illegally when you are going to video cops. I'm really surprised they didn't give you a ticket.
Yeah, I thought about that, too.
Good point.
Love that move of not giving them your name but then turning it around and demanding theirs. That's a great way to tip the balance of power in the encounter. Assertive, polite and most importantly in the right--well done.
And in the process caught one cop doing a great job, something they don't seem to realize filming can do quite often.
When the first officer asked if that was your car, my first thought was to not answer. That's my second thought, too. Why give an officer something more to look at to find some petty violation?
Or to create a violation. Breaking your headlights with his nightstick, for example.
Yeah I agree...I slipped up there. Oh and next time, if possible, I will park my car completely out of sight. Every encounter is a learning experience.
The intelligence of the comments here on PINAC are quite a few notches above the comments on YouTube.Here is an example of the brilliance on YouTube.
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What are you trying to accomplish?, do you realize your intentions arent good? you really believe youre doing a social service? why dont you volunteer at a shelter or something rather than upset things, the deputies werent doing anything just talking.. so whats your routine? as soon as you see a patrol car u just pull over and start recording the deputies? kinda creepy if you ask me. if u wanna help the community, put something into the community dont just look for problems where there are none.
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@terpsanddawgs24 this nut guy thinks he is awesome just getting on peoples business, I tell you the deputy was doing his job, and when he approached him, clearly he asked him, is everything ok?, trying to help him, obviously if I walk up to a guy that is holding something near his abdominal area and looking weird I am going to think something is up, plus his attitude was not the best. My question is, if u got nothing to hide why didnt u give him your Id? and why were you requesting his? right?
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