Do we need a federal civil rights law that specificially protects photographers?
Juries can sometimes be clueless.
In my 2008 trial, a Miami jury determined that I had resisted arrest without violence even though they had also determined that I was not guilty of any arrestable offense. It took a lengthy appeal process before a panel of three judges reversed that conviction.
And last week, a federal jury determined that New Orleans police did nothing wrong when they arrested two men who had filmed them in 2007, even though the charges against the men were quickly dismissed.
In fact, police even deleted the video, which is in itself, an illegal act.
The video, which was recovered, showed police officers walking away from the camera before one officer turned around and walked back towards it. The video then went blank.
But still, the jury sided with police in the matter.
The two men, Greg Griffith and Noah Learned, were charged with crossing a “police cordon”, which evidently doesn’t even have to be a real cordon. Just some imaginary periphery created by the officers.
This is how the New Orleans Times-Picayune describes the arrest:
The pair were watching the parade on Canal Street when they saw a fight break out between two factions of young women, said Griffith, who came to New Orleans after Katrina to volunteer.
A group of officers responded to the fight after it broke up, he said. Griffith, who started a group called “Cop Watch” with Learned when they were both students at Kent State University, said he began filming the officers, capturing Hughes grab a woman by the hair and push her to the ground.
Griffith kept filming after the woman left the scene, although he noted it seemed to provoke the officers’ ire. The video, which was shown to the jury, showed the officers walk away from Griffith. But Harrison, who has since left the force, was seen turning around and walking back toward the camera, which then went blank.
And if that wasn’t enough to prove to the jury that the cops acted out of their authority, several other plaintiffs testified about their own problems when filming police against their wishes, including a Times-Picayune editor and Associated Press videographer.
Those subpoenaed to testify included Gordon Russell, city editor of The Times-Picayune, who was questioned about a post-Katrina incident when he and a New York Times photographer were stopped by police, put up against a wall and had a notebook and camera taken away. Russell was able to recover his notebook after he was released by the group of officers, but the photographer’s memory card was confiscated by police.
A videojournalist from The Associated Press also testified about a widely publicized incident in the French Quarter several weeks after the storm. Rich Matthews was trying to film the much-criticized arrest and beating of a man on Bourbon Street, but an officer grabbed him and ordered him to stop filming.
The jury’s decision led to an article in the Christian Science Monitor in which a University of Tennessee law professor stated that we need a federal civil rights law to protect citizens who film or photograph police from getting arrested.
“Abuse of photographers is common, and difficult to remedy under current law,” writes University of Tennessee law professor Glenn Reynolds in an e-mail. “I believe that public officials performing their duties – including, but not limited to, law enforcement – should be subject to photography by citizens, and I would favor a federal civil rights law to that effect.”
The CSM article highlights several incidents where people were arrested for photographing cops, including my own arrest.
After a three-year legal battle over Miami photographer Carlos Miller’s arrest on a public street for refusing to stop taking pictures of several police officers, Mr. Miller saw all the charges dropped this week. (His compendium of such incidents can be seen here: carlosmiller.com)
The article also acknowledges that “police often have the upper hand in court.”
Had I not appealed my initial arrest nor had I not plead not guilty to my second arrest, I would have had several criminal charges on my record for the simple act of taking photos of cops against their wishes.
The difficulty in beating such cases is also mentioned in a Philadelphia City Paper article that states that police have “wiggle room” to make these arrests stick.
Because neither the state Supreme Court nor the federal appeals court that oversees Philadelphia has ruled that such arrests violate either the First or Fourth Amendments — the ones regarding free speech and unreasonable searches and seizures, respectively — there’s enough wiggle room for cops to round up anyone snapping photos of them from across the street, even if both the cop and the photographer are on public property. After all, if the cop doesn’t like the idea of a citizen journalist or interested onlooker committing his image to film (or memory card), he can simply claim that the photographer was “creating a hazardous condition,” as Gress said of Sasnou in the police report.
This, however, may soon change. In 2007, Brian Kelly sued the Borough of Carlisle, Pa., a small town west of Harrisburg, for what Kelly claims was a false arrest, after he videotaped a police officer during a traffic stop. During that stop, Officer David Rogers demanded that Kelly, who was in the passenger seat of the car Rogers had pulled over for speeding, turn over his video camera. After Kelly complied, Rogers arrested him for violating the state’s wiretap law, a felony, even though the state Supreme Court already ruled that the wiretap law doesn’t apply. A district court denied Kelly’s motion for summary judgment — meaning, essentially, his request to get a judge to rule that his actions didn’t violate the law. He is appealing in federal court.
Even though the conviction is my first arrest was reversed, I am still waiting for that case to be officially dismissed. I know I stated in a previous article that I have no criminal charges hanging over me, which is true because the State Attorney has not refiled charges and they are technically unable to do so, according to my lawyer who has yet to make me fully understand why. I am going to meet with him this week for lunch to get the full details. He said it has something to do with the fact that it was a misdemeanor charge and not a felony.
And he said that the State Attorney has a time limit which is set to expire soon. Once that happens and the case is officially dismissed, then I can proceed with my civil suit against Miami police.
While most of us can see that I have a strong case of having my rights violated, you never know what will happen once the case is brought before a jury.
Perhaps a jury will think that police did no wrong that even though I was within my legal rights to photograph police and even though I was jailed for 16 hours and even though I lost work as a result of the arrest and even though I was forced to spend thousands of dollars in order to prove my innocence.
Perhaps the jury will think that I somehow asked to be arrested because I maintain a blog where I document these arrests.
Perhaps the jury will think that I am a “police antagonist” because I was arrested a second time for photographing cops against their wishes, even though those charges were dropped. That, after all, is what prosecutors called Griffith in the New Orleans case because he had been arrested three times for videotaping cops against their wishes.
If that is not a well-documented pattern of police abuse, then I don’t know what is.
So perhaps it is time for a federal civil rights law that protects photographers.
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yes! one vote yes!
Do we need a federal civil rights law that specificially protects photographers?
Absolutely NOT. As you stated in your article, the cops are already doing things that are illegal. If state prosecutors are unwilling to do anything about it, what makes you think federal ones will.
We don’t need more laws. When you invite more government interference, there are always unintended consequences. I don’t know what they could be in this case but that’s what makes them unintended.
We don’t need more laws. Let’s just enforce the laws on the books already.
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Fuck yes. Something specific to address this problem.
Difster has a point, but I do think this would be a good idea IF properly done.I also think there needs to nation wide over sight agency(IAD) with authority to correct abuses.
Roger, who oversees the overseers? More government power always leads to more abuses. It’s part of the very nature of government. More government never means being treated nicer by the government. The fact is, it can’t be done right because you want government to do it. I know that sounds cynical but history bears this out.
We already have the laws, the problem is enforcement.
I’m torn about the idea. While such a law would make the situation clearer to both police and courts, I’m not sure that it would be enforced any more than the current situation. Despite the fact that the U.S. has the highest incarceration rate in the world (just over 1%), police still enjoy a very positive opinion in the public. So it is often difficult to convince a jury that the police are at fault.
I wonder if these lawsuits would get better results if you demanded a bench trial instead of a jury trial. While juries tend to give larger awards when they agree, they are more susceptible to emotional bias. There is also the fact that juries decide fact while judges decide law, people may also want to stay with a bench trial since the facts in many cases are rather clear.
Anyways, I’m not a lawyer, and am not up on the nuances, but I often wonder about why bench trials are not used more often.
Absolutely NOT
Adding another law to protect photography just sends a message to everyone photographers didn’t have rights without the NEW law
Yes, it is harder for the individual to fight a particular case up to the level where you finally reach a judge who recognizes free speech, or a jury who can see how foolish a lower decision was. But it’s necessary to build up a general knowledge that it’s ok to take pictures.
Take for example your first case. If a new law came out after that case was decided, whose purpose was to explicitly allow what you did, there would always be a perception that the law was created because you didn’t “really” have that right in the first place.
Do it the hard way, let the lessons be learned up the chain. Do you think your first judge will make that mistake again ? More importantly, the next lawyer who has to go up against that judge, or has a client with a problem like yours, has your case [under existing law] to call upon.
A federal law to protect speech/free press guaranteed under the federal constitution, when the states are violating those rights, is not a bad thing. Rallying against any law is counterproductive.
Maybe I worded that wrong at the end. I meant that being against any new law, just because it is a law, does not do anything to protect our rights.
Public photography is just one of many, many, many things that the police have no legal authority to prohibit. The proposed law would just further encourage the mindset that “everything not specifically authorized is forbidden.”
But I could stand behind a law requiring the police to be audio-and-video-recorded at all times when interacting with the public (e.g. dash-cams and lapel-cams), with the recordings subject to review by an independent non-police panel and plaintiffs.
Such a mandatory monitoring law would begin to address the larger problem, of which the “war on photography” is merely a symptom: a militarized police operating with an institutionalized culture of impunity.
No. No more laws creating protected classes.
Just look what the ADA did! Now people are afraid to hire people with even minor disabilities, because they consider them “walking lawsuits”. The disabled have a law under which they can sue, that’s not available to “normal” people, so HR is so afraid to hire them because even the slightest “dis” or misinterpreted action can turn into an expensive lawsuit.
It’s the same with sexual harassment laws. Regardless of how well intended they were, they’re now being used by unscrupulous people to blackmail employers with lawsuits.
Do we really want people to *fear* photographers in that same way? I can’t see that as being good for the profession.
I agree with Difster. There is no need for a law granting extra protection to photographers. The Bill of Rights already protects us. We just have to stand up for those rights when misinformed and corrupt cops and lawyers get in our faces.
“If it’s done right”, Roger? When does the government ever get things right? Even if the current administration sticks to it’s word, how do we know the next one won’t become abusive? (e.g. your Social Security Number being used as a de-facto ID, even though it was promised this would never happen. The income tax was promised only to apply to the top 2% of “the richest” people, and the rate would never exceed 13%. The government ALWAYS ends up breaking it’s promises.)
If — *IF* — there’s a need for a new law, it’s one that would require prosecutors to hold the police accountable when *they* break the law.
Sad that juries consider people “antagonists” for not allowing police to trample over clearly enumerated rights. Cops are people too and can abuse the power, and when they do, real people suffer. If you refuse to do something a cop asks you, even if he had no right to ask you to do such a thing, juries brand you a “troublemaker.” How on earth do people expect to keep their freedoms when they have this attitude?
“The Bill of Rights already protects us.”
If it does, then why are so many photographers still being arrested?
What we need to do is disabuse people in general of the notion that police are somehow infallible.
Of course, police unions already have quite the PR machine in place, which is part of how we got here.
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the electronic age has ushered in a slew of new issues…a legal tweak might be in order!
Carlos’ (resisting without resisting) case is similar to that of Peter Watts (rifters.com), who
was convicted last week of a felony for not complying with orders fast enough as he was being searched by US Customs as he was LEAVING the US.
Juror wrote to local paper: I felt I had to
convict, the way the stupid law is written,
but why were the officers not prosecuted for subsequently beating him?
It’s too bad more people don’t know about jury nullification.
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You could try to get to get a new federal law passed or get the judge voted out of office (assuming he holds an elected position). To the former, photographers are not a minority worthy of specific protection. Technically, everyone is a photographer so there is no minority status. Now the latter choice at least has the possibility of success and could send a message to judges unwilling to put their personal bias aside.
Don’t “John Walsh” on us Carlos.
I think that it’s obvious that the U.S. is becoming more statist, in the sense that the governmental powers are increasingly taking the position that things which are not expressly permitted are in fact forbidden.
Given that environment, this sort of law would actually work to the disadvantage of photographers. First, because it would basically tell police that all prior arrests of photographers before the law went into effect were permissible. Secondly, the law would have no actual force, as police would continue to make up bogus charges like “disrupting the peace” or something. Third, the law would be watered down by police unions lobbying Congress, or through federal judges creating numerous judicial exceptions. It is an invitation to disaster.
The best sort of approach to dealing with an increasingly statist system is noncompliance and public humiliation. Technology will aid in that rebellion. Having pictures immediately uploaded to the internet once they’re taken, having video automatically uploaded and streaming, and overwhelming the police with not one photographer, but 20 or 200 photographers, will aid in protecting photographers.
A piece of paper saying that cops can’t do X isn’t going to protect you. The First Amendment was supposed to do that, and frankly, it is only as valuable as the willingless of the people and the courts to uphold it. They have not. So it’s time to seek redress through alternative means.
I am not a lawyer but I think a better solution would be a landmark (maybe Supreme?) court ruling in favor of photographer’s rights. New laws overlapping existing statutes would be ignored in the same way as the various rights, laws and official policy memos already in place. A solid legal victory would hopefully establish precedent in the legal system. Members of the general public already have vast misconceptions about our rights as photographers (I’ve had to argue several times about my right to use wedding photos that I took in my own portfolio, and I was once harassed while photographing flowers in a public park). A prominent court victory might provide opportunities to better educate the police and the public as well.
CM: “…you never know what will happen once the case is brought before a jury.
Perhaps a jury will think that police did no wrong that even though I was within my legal rights to photograph police and even though I was jailed for 16 hours and even though I lost work as a result of the arrest and even though I was forced to spend thousands of dollars in order to prove my innocence.”
Unfortunately in the few cases of police ever being criminally prosecuted, juries rarely convict. And these prosecutions are rarely brought unless the preponderance of evidence is such that even the government cannot dismiss the actions. Yet those twelve peers can.
I can’t see a civil jury being any better even when the standard is lower than in criminal cases. Still, it is good of you to try.
No new law for all the reasons cited above. And for one more reason: there’s a far, far more powerful weapon, one before which Johnny Law admitted even he trembled. Take money from the officers.
You, Carlos, (and the preponderance of this site’s commentors) clearly do not disagree with the rule of law. Neither you nor the majority of the commentors wish police to vanish, as if anarchy were trustable. You and that same majority recognize (at least in theory if not by experience) the stresses police face (probably aided in this by posts such as those by Johnny Law). You and they appreciate the legitimate work of police.
You and they just don’t like police abusing their position to advance personal vendettas.
Make that practice cost (something existing law allows), and it will go away. All by itself.
Not sure who wrote it, but I’ve changed my mind: it would create a situation where everything not specifically defined in a law would give LE cover to say it’s illegal. Simple enforcement of the First Amendment from the federal level down would take care of this.
What Roy says here.
The police who do these things are ignoring the law as it is; adding on a new one to ignore isn’t going to change anything.
But make it easier to hold them responsible, and things will change really quick.
Some will scream and cry that doing so will make it so police are afraid to do their jobs. No, it won’t. Police that do their jobs seem to manage to do so without making up laws to suit themselves. But it will sort out the abusers sooner rather than later.
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We don’t need a law. We need to make it financially appealing for lawyers to take these cases. Win big Carlos. City governments notice when they pay a hundred grand over one officer’s stupidity.
The individual cop would notice if it came out of his assets and not the taxpayer’s. Put the bad cop in jail and kick his family to the curb.
I disagree with this. Part of the reason why police can get away with this is because of murky and sometimes conflicting case precedent governing the right of citizens to record police’ actions. Just one example: the landmark case that established recording police as a protected right dealt with video and police could argue it doesn’t cover still-photography.
What we need is a clear and unambiguous law protecting the right of citizens to record their government at work. No, it will not stop abuse, just as the Civil Rights Act doesn’t stop racially-motivated abuses, but it provides a much better weapon for citizens to fight back with than a hodgepodge of case law.
It’s a civil rights issue, so the Civil Rights Division of the DoJ has that function already. What they need is more funding and more lawyers, after Bush did everything he could to basically gut them.
This doesn’t increase government power, it gives citizens a tool to fight back in court against these kinds of abuses.
Except we don’t really have the laws. We have 18 U.S.C. § 242 and its civil tort cousin Title 42,1983, and a lot of court precedent that tends to support us, but could easily be wiped out by the activist conservatives of the Roberts court.
So, yeah, we really don’t have the laws.
What we need isn’t a criminal law (though I would support that), what we need is a civil tort to create a clear path to hold abusive officers responsible.
“Adding another law to protect photography just sends a message to everyone photographers didn’t have rights without the NEW law”
This is a fallacy I see a lot, but it’s a bad basis for policy. Our rights exist independent of the law. The law can only infringe upon them or guarantee them. It can not create new rights.
In this case where the right in question is already well established by the first amendment, so even if your assumption was true, it’s not really relevant.
What this law would do is not establish a new right (if such a thing were possible), it merely codifies how and under what circumstances courts may act to protect an existent right.
I think everyone who has ever filed a civil rights lawsuit would disagree with that statement.
A) nothing about this law creates a protected class.
B) the Bill of Rights is fairly useless without accompanying laws to guide how it is applied. Your fundamental understanding of the legal process is flawed.
C) In case you missed it, people already fear photographers. I’d rather be feared because people know I will stand up for my rights, than be feared for no rational reason by people who can infringe on my rights with impunity.
Well, technically, nullification isn’t supposed to happen, since jurors are finders of fact, and aran’t supposed to decide legal questions -that is the prerogative of the judge.
The rights of minorities are not the only rights worthy of legal protection.
Take a look at 18 U.S.C. § 242 Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law. It specifically states that race, religion, etc. is not a necessary element of the offense.
Although professional “finders of fact” do make the final decision on guilt or innocence in many well-respected European democracies, the US Constitution specifies a jury of your “peers” as a safeguard against robotic enforcement of tyrannical laws.
If Congress passes an unassailably Constitutional but yet tyrannical law (as the “obstructing a police officer” statutes have arguably become, in practice), I’d expect the jury to acquit if a defendant were “technically” guilty but no reasonable person would think that what he did was wrong or immoral. That’s what they’re the Founders put the juries there for.
To find someone guilty, everyone — the prosecutor, the judge, and EVERY juror — must agree. To find someone not guilty, only one of those persons need say ‘no’. And that’s the way it should be: very hard to convict, very easy to acquit. “Better that 10 guilty men go free …” and all that.
Checks and balances. It’s what keeps the system from devolving too quickly into the natural state of government: authoritarianism.
Criminal law vs Civil law: Hence my remarks about bench trials since in a civil trial the plaintiff chooses between jury and bench, while in a criminal trial, the defendant chooses between jury and bench.
No, bad idea, we do not need more laws which means more government, no, no fucking way. We need to get rid of government, get rid of as much of it as we can, less government equals less facist asshats like the filth abusing power and making up laws to suit their situation. how about we just have the constitution, thats it, no more, maybe som eof the ten commandments, other than that, we don’t need anything else. Perhaps make loser pay in any court case, tht way the filth would stop writing fucktard tickets if they knew they would be responsible for paying for it when they get their ass handed to them in court.
However, it is perfectly legal. Unfortunately, the mere mention of it in a courtroom by a juror will likely get them tossed.
Well, the officers of the court don’t want anyone to know about it, but it’s legal and something many of the founders believed in.
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