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Unfortunately: 1) Bryan v. McPherson will likely go to the SCOTUS, where it’s a crap shoot that it would be upheld; and 2) the 9th Circuit precedents often do not make it out of the 9th Circuit.

I’m sure the Police Unions will have a group to file an amicus brief on how this will greatly interfere with their ability to do their job and will have the same impact on “officer safety”, the primary mission of all PD’s.

It's a shame that "public safety" isn't the primary mission of al PD's, considering that many of them work in Public Safety departments of their local government.

I doubt that this ruling will make the police "think twice" before using Tasers, as it seems that some don't even think *once* before using their Tasers…

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I'm with Nathan on the thinking part – though I don't believe thinking is the problem, since the abusers are coming from a "can I get away with this?" standpoint and not "how do I handle this without someone getting hurt?"

Cop Accused of Abusing Toddlers with Stun Gun:
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-taser-moles...

Hmmm

Sheesh. Younger and younger kids are being tazed. WHat's next, cut the umbilical cord and then tase the newborn?!?

Why wait that long?

Tasers are the all-purpose problem-solver. Got a granny who’s dissing you for pulling her over? Just apply some summary punishment to calm your cop ego down.</sarcasm>

After reading the opinion, I was impressed with the depth of analysis. Well-written and reasoned… and while IANAL it seems pretty solid with its logic and all. The threat tests seemed pretty inescapable, though who knows what the more conservative judges will do to work around that.

Here’s hoping this decision stands and gets taken up by the Supremes, or at least by other circuit courts.

I’m interested to hear what @JL thinks of this decision.

I'm surprised JL hasn't shown up to rant already. It must be taking a while to prepare.

The good news is that at least this judge is throwing the weight of his office into stopping this. Though I am certain some may not agree, judges are generally lagging indicators of political opinion. Thus, this is a positive sign.

I am flattered that you guys are eagerly awaiting my condemnation of this case. I'm sorry to disappoint you but I think the 9th Circuit decision is pretty reasonable. From reading the facts of the case, it sounds like the officer jumped the gun and tased the driver before he was an actual threat.

If you read the decision, the court references a previous taser case (Draper v. Reynolds) and reiterates that an officer can taser an aggressive unarmed individual on a traffic stop as long as the officer can articulate the threat. In the case of Draper, the officer gave multiple commands, had an extended argumentative conversation with Draper, and Draper approached the officer in an aggressive manner. The court had no problem with that tasing and the case sounded perfectly reasonable to me.

If I were a police supervisor reviewing the case in question (Bryan v. McPherson) I would recommend that the officer used the taser improperly. Would this stop still have eventually ended in a taser if the officer had taken it slower? Probably. Bryan sounds like an idiot who was acting like a child. Crying after a speeding ticket? Jumping out of a car on a traffic stop and beating on himself? Odds are that even if the officer had taken the time to give him some directions and warned that he faced getting taser, Bryan would have continued to act the fool and caused things to escalate. As it is, we will never know for sure because the officer rushed things.

Just my 2 cents.

Good points, I think I will definitely subscribe! . I’ll go and read some more!

A cop should take a few minutes to stretch before a taserin' so he doesn't pull a muscle.

I enjoy this site and agree with you…You might, however retitle this article…

You use the wrong verb..reign, the verb you use, means to rule..a king reigns…rein…means to control…like a reins used to ride a horse..Rein in..is to bring under control or hinder the free “unrestrained” use.

Thanks…Photography is not a crime…it is tool to fight tyranny. Thanks

Craig,

You’re right. It’s been fixed. Thanks.

I don’t see any reason to tase anyone if you don’t feel threatened. Even with a stupid warning. Saying, “If you don’t stop being upset I’m going to electrocute you” isn’t a good enough reason to electrocute somebody.

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