Florida Man Confident Confiscated Video Will Prove His Innocence

 

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Steve Horrigan, the Photography is Not a Crime reader who spent 24 hours in jail on a felony wiretapping charge last week, is confident the video he recorded will  not only prove his innocence, but it will prove the North Port police chief is a liar.

But now it's just a matter of getting the police to return his phone to him.

Chief Kevin Vespia responded to my email on Saturday with his officers' version of the story, claiming that Horrigan was not arrested for recording, but for obstructing a criminal investigation while police officers conducted a "high risk stop."

I included that email along with my response in the original story under "update".

Since then, Horrigan sent me an email with a detailed response to the chief's claims.

I've posted that email in its entirety below.

He also uploaded a couple of Youtube videos describing the events that night, which I've posted below.

Chief Vespia also sent me another email, which I've reposted below Horrigan's email in an attempt to bring all versions into the open. This email doesn't really say much, other than apologizing for calling Corey.

I give Vespia credit for responding to my emails with his side of the story, but that also places him at risk for looking like a fool if the video proves his officers lied.

And his version still doesn't justify arresting Horrigan on the wiretapping charge.

Here is Horrigan's email:

Carlos, First I would be a fool to relate to you anything that isn’t true because there is a VIDEO of this complete event and this police chief would seem to me to be a little silly to be making these accusations without viewing the footage. He has my smart phone in his possession. I would even be willing to go to the police station and give him my charging cable so that he could view the event in its entirety. I would even be willing to turn on the phone and show him how to view the footage. Hello…. You don’t need any he said, she said or three versions of the story.

1)     He states that the officers told me to leave or stop recording 10 to 15 times. They never told me to leave the area I think he might have told me to go home once then but I’m not sure.  And I’m not sure that he even told me to quit recording or I’d be arrested. He certainly never asked if I was audio recording and never told me to stop audio recording. This can be confirmed on the footage. The officer did seem quite annoyed at me for recording but even told me once that I was allowed to record and that can be confirmed from the footage and or the dash cam videos.

2)     What is interesting to me, when I was recording from across the street which was a two lane road with a median that there was a female walking her dog up and down the sidewalk within four feet of the automobile that was supposedly a high risk suspect who was eventually arrested for having a marijuana cigarette. There were several citizens milling around the scene much much closer than myself. All of this can be confirmed by watching the video.

3)     I did move a little later to the other side of the street on the public sidewalk at least 35 feet (I measured the distance yesterday, it’s helpful when the police encounter is right behind your house) from the officer and about 100 ft from the stopped vehicle. I wanted to get closer to the stopped vehicle, but in deference to staying out of the way of the officers and their vehicles, I stayed 100 ft away from the stopped vehicle.  I did this because the drug dog showed up and I wanted to get the footage of the drug dog going around the car from that angle which is my right. At that time, there were several citizens standing close to or near the officer in question on the other sidewalk who were much closer than myself. You can see this on the video.

4)     When I moved over to the sidewalk, the officer immediately turned around (35 ft away from me, he was about 65 ft from the stopped vehicle) and said “It is illegal to videotape the police.” His exact words he walked up to me, I didn’t walk up to him. Two other police officers surrounded me, from the rear and the left. The one officer said give me your id, which I left at home, I voluntarily gave him my name and birth date and that I would decline to answer any other questions until I was represented by an attorney and he then stated that I was under arrest. And that’s the whole thing in a nutshell.

5)     I talked with the three officers later at the Venice station. The officer stated that he thought that he was being fair with me but that I wouldn’t do what he told me to do. I asked, “Did you arrest me for videotaping the police?” he stated, yes, that is why you were arrested. He didn’t say anything about the obstruction or “safety” situation. The three north port officers that were there and myself were having a debate about the legality and the 1st Amendment rights of a citizen to videotape police and I really believe that they believe that I was breaking the law by videotaping them and one even mentioned that the other officer could sue me individually in civil court for videotaping them. And since everything at this jail is being recorded the police chief should be able to get the video and audio of that conversation. That would have been Jan 25 sometime between 8:30 and 11pm. I’m sure the chief can obtain that video. This is also why I believe that this is such an important case and event. These police officers adamantly believed that private citizens can be arrested for a felony for recording them in a public place, performing public servant duties, by a journalist who is at least 100 ft away on a public sidewalk from a stopped vehicle during a traffic stop. We are going to have to get some kind of guidance from the court on this issue. And by the way, How can a Felony be secondary to a misdemeanor?

6)     While I understand that this police chief is going by what his officers are telling him, he would be wise to at least view my footage so that he could confirm or deny the accusations of his officers. The video doesn’t lie. And there was only one officer who talked to me a Sgt. Sirriaca?, the others never paid any attention.

7)     And finally, Carlos, after reading and commenting and digesting court cases and everything from Photography is not a Crime for the last two to three years. Do you think (I know what you think) that I don’t know enough not to obstruct the police and what my rights are as a photojournalist, no matter how amateur? I am confident that after everyone has a chance to view the footage that you will see that I acted according to the law and that I acted in a professional manner and never was unkind, disrespectful,abusive or profane of any law enforcement officer and that I never got in the way of their activities, other than to record public police activities on a public sidewalk at least 100 ft away from the traffic stop. I guess that was my crime.

Steve Horrigan

And here is Vespia's email:

Carlos

Thank you, I apologize for the typo, I was performing extreme multi-tasking when I responded as I had a few emails regarding the issue. Unfortunately, you received my response to Corey and I believe, Corey received my Carlos response. I appreciate you taking no offense to it as it was not intentional, simply human error.

As far as having further discussion regarding this topic, I would be happy to talk with you further, however, I will not discuss this particular case any further as criminal prosecution is still pending. I would be available to talk about the general topic and if you are interested, feel free to contact me at one of the numbers listed below Monday – Friday 8 am – 5 pm. I am currently out of the office until Wednesday, however, if you have a date and time you are available to discuss further, please let me know. Stay safe!!!

Kevin

Update: The National Press Photographers Association fired off a letter to North Port Police Chief Kevin Vespia protesting the arrest of Horrigan, who is an NPPA member.

Also, PINAC reader and Florida public records advocate Joel Chandler obtained Horrigan's arrest report.

Chandler said police made unlawful redactions to the arrest report.

They have redacted the name of the individual who was witness to the arrest of Steve.  Sounds like they are closing ranks and putting up the blue wall of silence.

Comments

Want to commit felonies come to Florida... the most incompetent cops & prosecutors in America (with the possible exception of the backwoods GA & TX).

If you want a fair shot at justice... this ain't the place. This is the old south masquerading as a modern state. Make no mistake about it or it will cost you.

I'll stand in front of the tank:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-nXT8lSnPQ

What I think may have happened is that he caught the officers illegally searching a vehicle. Illegal searches are a violation of state and federal law. I think if that is true then arresting the man who recorded it may be tampering with a witness, That is a felony, Destruction of the evidence on the cell phone would also be a felony. No matter what, if the evidence on that phone is tampered with either way, the police would be destroying evidence, a felony. SO this Chief had better take very very good care of the evidence in his possession. Of course this is all my opinion. I am not a lawyer.

Boy, am I bad with distances. Went down to the local big box and bought a 100'ft tape, set me back 10 bucks. on the first video, I said I was back about 23 ft, IT was actually 48ft (cop said 15, in his report). When he arrested me I was back 68 ft across a road. And I was 124 ft from the stopped vehicle. I posted three more vids on my youtube, take a look.

This is pretty important because they are charging me with interception of AUDIO communication. The distances are so far that I would never be able to pick up any of their conversations anyway. Maybe there are some audio experts out there but I don't think a smart phone could pick up a normal conversation from 48 feet.

you might want to check out my friend Ethan Traub's video on you tube. type in open carry venice. He doesn't seem to have any trouble with tape recording and audio recording the local police. And he has a GUN.

JdL

Anybody want to take any bets on whether this cell phone will ever see the light of day again? I predict that either the phone or its card will be "lost", or the card mysteriously erased. Cops really believe they're above the rules that us mere mortals are expected to abide by.

I'm virtually certain that the footage will never see the light of day. It will get erased or the phone will be lost. Hopefully, I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

It's simply not safe to photograph police in this country. Recording video won't protect you, since they can arrest you and then delete the footage. Live streaming to the internet is only somewhat safer; the cop can walk up to you bump into you, and then claim you assaulted him. In that sort of close range situation, your footage may not show clearly what happened, and prosecutors and judges are inclined to believe 'heroic' cops over 'troublemakers' with cameras. That's just the way it is.

What I think is sufficiently safe is if one person photographs the cop, and a partner is some distance behind him with a cell camera streaming to the internet.

After some run-ins with cops in DC, I have stopped photographing them. I haven't been arrested yet, but I've come close. I work in government procurement and my job requires a security clearance: one arrest (no matter how unjustified) and it would be very difficult for me to make a livelihood in my field.

However, I am interested in photographing DC cops (uniformed Secret Service, State Dept Police, National Park Service Police, etc.) using the buddy system I described above. I especially want to photograph State Department cops after one almost arrested me. I don't want to do anything illegal and I don't want to give cops any reason to believe I'm a danger (i.e., I would certainly respect their space when photographing them), but I want to make my point with my camera. If there's anyone here in the DC area who would like to get some photos of cops using the buddy system, please shoot me an e-mail. Thanks!

Steve

I forgot to provide my e-mail address in my above comment. I can be reached at: sjones197543@yahoo.com

I have to agree with Steven, somewhat about people not being able to risk arrest even though passionate about non-violent civil disobedience. That is why there are people like me willing to take the hits for the team. Record on.

A simple question for Chief Vespia about the "general topic" (his words) of recording the police: Do you and your officers truly believe that it is a crime to record police officers in the performance of their duties, and if so, can you please cite the law on which you base your belief?

I'd truly like to know his response.

Carlos Miller - Photography is Not a Crime
Pixiq Expert

The National Press Photographers Association has stepped in. Read the letter in my update. Also, check out the arrest report under the update as well.

Steveo this is why it is a must that you get Qik or Ustream to stream all videos directly to the net.

This is why it is a must for inconspicuous, cheap high resolution camcorders to become ubiquitous for people to purchase.

In my all time favorite police encounter video, Chris Rock explains how to deal with the police except it didn't help me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltrVwExEn5E&feature=related

Here is my judge: Rick DeFuria, a former journalist who was a talking head on SNN and some other news stations until elected Circuit Judge. Local photographer said he is very media friendly.

http://12circuit.state.fl.us/JudicialMagistrateList/SarasotaCounty/RickD...

Ck out Probable Cause Affidavit written from hearsay and what if Cynthia White had a cell phone camera on my youtube channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UCtEmlX0VI&context=C3503531ADOEgsToPDskL...

@Steveo- Careful with offering your video directly to these cops. Talk to a lawyer first. Carlos may be able to suggest one.

These cops don't appear to be interested in your potentially exculpatory evidence, and I'd guess they're very likely afraid of it based on what you're publicly claiming here. Showing your cops the video won't get them on your side. Based on what you've said here, they consciously turned you into perp, possibly illegally, and it's in their own best interest to keep you in that box.

If you DO get your cellphone back pre-trial, AND it's undamaged and unerased, I recommend you don't unlock it in their presence. At least not without a lawyer present. Lawyer up.

And they may already have viewed the video. Software for cracking smart phones is a hot topic at PDs these days. Copying embedded SD cards is child's play (especially if it's Android).

If they don't go that route (searching cell phones is a legal grey area in some districts), they might well obtain a subpoena to compel you to produce the password. That may be the better situation for you, because whatever's on the phone will (should) be on your case's chain of evidence. If you receive a subpoena for this, show it to your lawyer.

Carlos, check out today's Democracy Now! Videographer escorted in handcuffs from Congressional hearing. http://www.democracynow.org/

by the way, I've been reading this blog for about 3 years and the LEO's always weighed in for the the side of lore and odor. Where the heck are you guys? Where is johnny law and some of the others? Thunderous silence. Kind of like a Jumbo shrimp or efficient government.

Ok, look at the video I posted and tell me is this exactly what I said.

You know what the best thing about the Truth. is that it is the Truth.

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