L.A. Deputy Caught On Camera Elbowing Mentally Ill Woman
A Los Angeles County Sheriff’s deputy is a Youtube star after elbowing a mentally ill woman in the face while trying to remove her from a city bus Monday.
The deputy then threatened to arrest the man who recorded the incident on his iPhone.
Fortunately, Jermaine Greene refused to hand it over.
And now the deputy will probably receive a paid vacation for a few days while this blows over.
After all, the sheriff’s department is justifying his actions, according to the Los Angeles Weekly.
"We got a 911 call of a violent woman on a bus, [saying] she almost attacked an elderly man. Lakewood deputies responded. And we know this woman by the way -- she has 4 previous arrests and convictions for assault on a police officer. ... She's a large woman with some mental challenges, and she became aggressive toward our deputies."
But Greene said she simply came on the bus with a stroller filled with pillows, making no mention of an elderly man.
And the video doesn’t show any aggression from her that justified a hard elbow to her face.
Greene, who recently returned from serving tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, indicated that he was more skill in dealing with mentally ill civilians than the deputy.
According to NBC LA:
"In the Army, they gave us extensive training for rules of engagement. There's proper protocols and steps you take. This lady didn't do anything, she wasn't combative and he actually turned combative on her," Green said.
Green claims the deputies then tried to intimidate him when he refused to hand over his cell phone.
"He comes to me and says you can be under arrest if you don't give me that video," Green said.
Green said the deputy then asked if he had any warrants.
"I said no, I'm a veteran, I just came back, I have six years, I have no record, and he said 'We'll see about that.'"
Why didn't Green want to hand over this video to the deputies involved?
"I think they would try to cover it up. I think a lot of things get covered up and people need to come forward if they see something, report it because it can't be fixed unless it's brought to the public's attention," Green said.
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Comments
I'm so glad that soldier stood his ground in not relinquishing his footage.
Hats off to that vet!
I think that attempted arrest of the vet could have ended up with dead or seriously wound cops if he chose to take offense.. I'm sorry but when you clearly exceed your lawful authority you are no longer a cop, but an imposter in a costume and protecting yourself is valid..
While California has a stop and identify law (I think) it would not have been in effect for Mr. Greene's behavior, so he had no legal obligation to even identify himself..
"(I think)"
Stop spreading false information.
CA doesn't not have a stop and identify law. If you are detained you have to provide your real name and that is it, nothing else.
If a cop approaches you and says to tell him your name, you don't have to say anything.
Again, stop spreading false information...it's infuriating...and a simple google search would have given you the actual law...not "(I think)".
Video has been removed as "hate speech"
Video has been removed as "hate speech"
The first thing the cops do is get on your tube and post " kill the Cops" so that You tube deletes the video
Take off the tin foil hat Rich.
It doesn't require a tin foil hat to wonder how a video of police misconduct gets pulled for "hate speech" or who would have a strong motive to do so.
Not sure about the "kill the cops" comment theory, but I wouldn't put it past law enforcement do such a thing. Since it seems like police will do almost anything to cover up their illegal behavior.
It is a fact though, that the US government and law enforcement agencies throughout this country have tried to remove videos of police brutality and government criticism from YouTube. Google searches will show that, but here's a short quote and a brief sample of links:
"Among other things, US authorities got in touch with Google when they wanted to kill some YouTube videos showing police brutality. Google states:
We received a request from a local law enforcement agency to remove YouTube videos of police brutality, which we did not remove. Separately, we received requests from a different local law enforcement agency for removal of videos allegedly defaming law enforcement officials. We did not comply with those requests, which we have categorized in this Report as defamation requests.
In total the US courts, government and police asked for 113 videos to be taken down, one because it showed "government criticism"."
http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/26/youtube_take_down_requests_count...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/oct/25/google-transparency-rep...
http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2120023/google-uk-government-takedown-req...
What's not surprising regarding this issue of censorship by the United States government, is the saddening reality that none of the mainstream media in the US covered the issue when Google released its transparency report. Notice the links are from UK news sources.
http://www.policemag.com/Videos/Channel/Patrol/2012/01/L-A-Deputy-s-Bus-...
I showed this video to my guys at the beginning of my shift and we all agreed that it was excessive. I am surprised that the agency is supporting the officer on this one and I think they will change their tune once some brass reviews the video.
I don't feel too sorry for her though since she had four convictions for assault on a police officer. Perhaps they can justify it if they have dealt with her before and recognized her behavior as how she acts leading up to a fight. They are going to have to be very detailed on how they knew she was beginning to resist. I don't think they will be able to explain it to my satisfaction though.
They all "agreed" it was "excessive"? Oh, wow, that was so big of them!
But of course JL, you ultimately come down on the side that it was really her fault. She had 4 convictions, dont'cha know! Of course, JL, it's always the victim's fault! She obviously threw her chin into the asshole cop's forearm.
I am glad you see the elbowing of a senior to the face is a excessive. It doesnt matter if she was resisting. I am not sure everything that was going on but the real question is whether this is assault?
As for your record check on the lady... how many of those arrests were accompanied by video? If this video wasn't there it would be her fifth!
"As for your record check on the lady... how many of those arrests were accompanied by video? If this video wasn't there it would be her fifth!"
I was thinking the same thing, and police lie all the time, so who knows what really happened during the four previous incidences. But the sheriffs sure are using her history (according to them and their records) as a tool to paint an unpleasant picture of this woman. Most people, or the non-bootlicking types, see right through it though.
Personally, the LA County Sheriffs are liars and I've experience it first-hand on multiple occasions, so I wouldn't believe a single report from any of their officers.
Plus, assault on a police officer is often used as one of those tack on charges that cops like to throw on contempt of cop arrests.
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