L.A. Photog Criticized For "Educational" Video Photographing Strangers
Eric Kim, a street photographer from Los Angeles, produced a video where he walks up to strangers in Hollywood and snaps their photo with a wide-angle on a Canon 5D and a handheld flash.
He tells his readers he was trying to emulate Bruce Gilden, the notable street photographer from New York City.
The strangers appear taken aback, which is understandable, but most just go on their way.
He even photographs a woman with her child without getting assaulted or accused of pedophilia (although judging by her looks, it did cross her mind).
He eventually photographs a man who calls him back, demanding him to delete the photo, informing him that he must ask permission first.
Kim happily obliges without correcting the man that he is wrong. We all know there is nothing outside common courtesy that requires him to ask permission first.
Kim is a popular photographer who even conducts workshops on street photography.
But despite that, he is receiving some heavy criticism on his blog for the above video.
There's just nothing going on in those photos, definitely not street photography. At best you're just trying to copy Gilden's way of shooting…You seem so adamant about integrity and the purity of street photography yet hand out phony compliments ("nice hat" "I like your shirt") just to try to get away with your way of shooting.Somewhere on your blog you made it a rule that it was about quality and not quantity, you should try to stick to that rule a bit more closely.
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As much as I wanted to give it the benefit of the doubt, my instincts told me that Eric Kim is a bit of a wannabe, who picked up a camera one day, decided that street photography would be his thing and then found out who the big guns are, what equipment they use and from then on that was all that mattered. It's one thing to say that you admire a certain photographer's style and even appropriate technique/choice of equipment, in this case Bruce Gilden, but it's a whole different story to just take what they do and just outright copy it. I'm a fan of Bruce Gilden's work, though not his style but do understand that his images work as a result of his unashamed nerve, it certainly does not work here.
Eric, I admire what you've managed to do with this website and even more so that braveness you've demonstrated in taking the leap to pursue your photography full time, but cut this shit out. If you stuck a camera in my face like this, I would take it from you and throw it under the next passing bus.
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Sorry Eric, I know it's all about experimenting and/or trying new things, but stick with what you were doing before. I liked that style of yours better.Quite a few of those people looked annoyed, and you shouldn't have deleted that last picture, even if it was a shitty picture. Stand your ground, don't be pushed over just cause he said you HAD to ask permission. Pfffft public space.
Kim responds to the criticisms in this video.
I really don't have an issue with the video, but he did say he wanted to make it an educational video.
However, he failed to provide one of the main lessons in street photography; that you are under no obligation to delete a photo if ordered to do so.
I would suggest taking this experiment a bit further and walk around photographing cops on the beat.
That would be much more interesting. And riskier.
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Comments
The issue of legality is without question. However, I'm thinking that Dale Carnegie would take issue with his "style" or lack of it. (Not exactly "winning friends" here.) --So what? You can take photos walking down a sidewalk? Big deal... I know several people who are going to be hostile to photographers.
I'm of the mindset that if it's important or interesting, shoot it. But if you're just going to tick a bunch of people off for no reason, why do it?
As an LA based street/documentary photographer, here's my street photography workshop in seven easy steps and it won't cost you anything.
1. Get a camera (preferably a film camera).
2. Wear at least one body camera that records at all times.
3. Walk around and take pictures (yes, it's that simple).
4. Be prepared for confrontation, but remember most people are more bark than bite.
5. If you photograph police, it's a toss up on whether or not you will be detained or unlawfully order to do something. LASD is worse than LAPD though and location is key. If you're alone in an area that doesn't have a lot of people around, expect some harassment.
6. If you're shooting digitally, never delete your pictures upon request.
7. Don't be arrogant and patronize people with insincerity due to your own insecurities or fears related to photographing strangers. Instead, be bold.
Take it for what it's worth, but I've lived in this exact neighborhood for over ten years and have been successfully photographing Hollywood and Los Angeles for a long time. I have never taken any kind of street photography workshop either.
I can tell you that video would make me avoid his workshop.
While he has copied Gilden's equipment and technique his work looks like snapshots when compared to Gilden's. To be fair we are comparing one days walking the street to the best of Gilden. Some of the people looked very interesting but Eric is more interested in just invading their space, sort of like a flasher exposing himself, rather than in waiting for the interesting expression and action that would make for a great photograph.
Just as flashers annoy people Eric's style is going to just end up annoying people while not creating anything special. While they can't make photography illegal you probably don't have a right to light someone with a strobe if they say no.
"If you stuck a camera in my face like this, I would take it from you and throw it under the next passing bus."
Really? If you were to take my camera and throw it under a bus, you would be thrown in after it.
Don't want to be on camera? Stay in your house. ALL. THE. TIME.
Thank you.
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