Las Vegas security guards harass woman for taking photos

Photo by Wolynski



A Las Vegas woman who was taking pictures inside a bus terminal was ordered to delete her photos and escorted off the property over the weekend.

The woman, who maintains a blog called Wolynski, said after the guards ordered her to delete the photos, she switched her camera off and showed them a blank screen, which convinced the Einsteins that she had deleted the images.

Then they ordered her off the property even though she had a valid bus ticket.

Now I could’ve dug in and insisted they prove to me you can’t take photos in a bus station – obviously there’s no such rule – but the day was beautiful and I didn’t feel like being detained for hours.

And then it hit me – there must have been things going on at that depot they didn’t want recorded, that I inadvertently photographed. Let’s put it this way, if you have a job in Vegas, you almost always have a side scam. If you see the same drug dealer in front of the Flamingo day in and day out for months, someone inside is getting paid off.

I did make one mistake. I took my bigger camera, the Lumix FZ-35 – not as big as an SLR, but not as small as the other one, so I drew more attention to myself. That’s a good lesson to remember – be a gormless tourist with a dinky camera and you are never a threat.

Comments

Anonymous
Anonymous

It’s probably a policy so a terrorist (foreign or domestic) can’t have research material to assist in planning… Not that it’s much of a deterant. even though I was a cop at the time, I remember being told I couldn’t take photos inside grand central station in 2004.

I guess the bus depot management’s thought is who the hell would want to photograph a bus depot other than someone looking for trouble? Of course, as a photographer, I know it’s probably filled with good shots.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Hey Mark, good to hear from you again.

Anonymous
Anonymous

That photo is like some bizarre re-enactment of the PINAC banner image.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

I don’t get this site. Can you blame the cops for being pissed? I know I’d hate it if some stranger was taking pictures of me while I was in a bus terminal.

I think you photographers need to realize that most people DONT LIKE ODD PEOPLE TAKING THEIR PHOTOS.

This blog is ridiculous. Talk about self-righteous.

Anonymous
Anonymous

@Jackson
I don’t blame the cops for being pissed, nor would I blame someone who got mad that their photo was taken. However, I do blame the cops when they overstep their authority and break the laws they are sworn to enforce and I blame people who respond to having their photo taken by infringing on the rights of others.

Anonymous
Anonymous

@Jackson
I do not blame the cops for being pissed, nor would I blame someone who got mad that their photo was taken. However, I do blame the cops when they overstep their authority and break the laws they are sworn to enforce and I blame people who respond to having their photo taken by infringing on the rights of others.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I hate racist rhetoric, conservative babbling, and people who think violins sound good in the open air. Yet, somehow, all of these things are protected by the constitution.

So is photographing people in public. It doesn’t matter how upset it makes people, it’s legal, it’s protected by the broadest laws in the land, and the only illegal thing is when people, guards, and police participate in prior restraint and harassment.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I want to point out that your viewpoint isn’t necessarily that of “everyone” and calling people who take pictures “you photographers” is in fact SELF RIGHTEOUS.

Self-righteousness (also called sententiousness, holier-than-thou[1]) is a feeling of smug moral superiority[2] derived from a sense that one’s beliefs, actions, or affiliations are of *greater* virtue than those of the *average person*.

I can also define Irony, if that would help you out on the internet!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Funny because you can google Las Vegas Transportation Center and see lots of images.

Wondering if said security guards are going to go on the warpath and start issuing takedown notices?

@ Jackson – Get off your high horse.
A – Those weren’t cops; they were security guards (read the post).
B – Read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and case law concerning photography. If you’re in public anybody can take your picture, get used to it.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

1) They’re not “cops”

2) Even if they were cops, they cannot order you to delete your photo’s

3) If you don’t like someone taking your picture, you tell them that, not that they’re breaking the law by doing so, because that’s a lie.

I just can’t wrap my head around some of the posters here who complain about a photographer doing what they’re allowed to do legally. If a police officer pulled them over for driving 55mph in a 55mph speed zone they’d be furious, but a photographer taking a photograph is somehow the bane of mankind.

Anonymous
Anonymous

They should have even half that much concern for their physical fitness!

Three out of four security guards in Las Vegas recommend donuts and coffee for breakfast, lunch AND dinner, apparently.

If I was that fat, I would not want to be photographed either.

Anonymous
Anonymous

‘Most people’ may not like having their picture taken.

No person has the right to make false accusations of criminal wrongdoing toward the person taking photos, bodily injury, damage to their property, illegal search or seizure, or threaten arrest, etc.

It’s ‘The Law’ not ‘The Like’ – LEO’s and security guards may enforce the law, they MAY NOT enforce what they like or do not like.

Anonymous
Anonymous

MY guess…middle guy with shades is the
Pimp Daddy. White guy with open palm is the
ex-cop hitman. PLainclothes guy on right
is the DEA mole. Tubby guy guy next to white guy is the Blackwater liaison. Seen it all before.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I find it surprising that you were told not to photograph in GCT. The terminal is arguably one of New York’s most photographed locations, and their website clearly states that photography is permitted.

I did hear of some incidents where photographers were harassed for photographing the platforms and trains but not within the main terminal building itself, unless they try to use a tripod.

I attended a tour of the electric substation underneath GCT – they arranged for a holding area so that we could check our camera gear before descending. That was the only location we were not allowed to photograph – we had a chartered train and visited other electric substations along the line which we were openly allowed to photograph.

As for bus terminals – there are many bus enthusiasts around the country who try to photograph every bus in existence, just like rail buffs do the same for trains.
NYCPhotorights´s last blog ..British War Against Photographers Rages On

Anonymous
Anonymous

@ Jackson

What I don’t get is people like you who detest the rule of law and constitutional rights. Cops should only enforce the law as written, not make up therir own laws and rules. This is not a police state yet!

Ever read a history book? Ever want to see pictures of how your neighborhood or your city looked 50 years ago or 100 years ago? How do you think those pictures got there?

Amazing how people want to see pictures but the same people don’t want them to be taken
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Anonymous
Anonymous

Stories like this just keep coming in don’t they? Whether or not you want your picture taken has nothing to do with me as a photographer.

If your face is in public, then your face is fair game. What you want photograhically does not change the legalities of a situation that is in public like this.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

She’s got a nice, clear photo of all of them. I’d say write a letter of complaint to the mayor and the head of the transit authority and include a print of this picture for identification purposes.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Jackson,

your comment is ridiculous.

Anonymous
Anonymous

The fact that they’re all together may be the problem–they should be out patrolling alone or in pairs, not having a big social gathering while other areas of the terminal go unwatched.

Be careful of making assumptions about transit security–some places they’re sworn officers, some places they aren’t. Makes a huge difference in what you can get away with. Especially the “pretend to delete” trick. Lying to a sworn officer is often a crime, lying to a rent-a is more like a public service.

Anonymous
Anonymous

I don’t think that that is correct in all circumstances, but if I am not under oath then I think that I can lie all I want…

Anonymous
Anonymous

Here is their contact info:

RTC Administrative Offices
600 S. Grand Central Pkwy.
Ste. 350
Las Vegas, NV 89106
Phone: 702-676-1500
Fax: 702-676-1518

Send them an e-mail here:
http://www.rtcsouthernnevada.com/contact/email.cfm

Anonymous
Anonymous

Roger, a sworn officer issuing unlawful orders, and threatening illegal detention and confiscation or destruction of property in violation of both written and case law is NOT in any way conducting a legitimate investigation. A security guard doing the same thing similarly has no legal authority.

Carlos, frankly I don’t understand why photographers don’t immediately dial 911 on their cellphones and inform the operator that someone is threatenig them with kidnapping (or unlawful detention), theft, and destruction of property. Because that’s really what it amounts to.
It’s one thing for a LEO to confront someone when there’s nobody else nearby, but all the sudden, there would be an ongoing recording, and a record of their attempt to “enforce” nonexistant laws by violating existing ones. I wonder how quickly a confrontation would turn around to “I’m sorry.”

Anonymous
Anonymous

That’s an awfully big coffee cup.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

If people are so dang sensitive about having their photos taken, they should be going positively batshit crazy every time they step outside of the confines of their home. Whether you’re in Miami, New York, Las Vegas, or Peoria, you’ve been photographed and videotaped numerous times before you’re even halfway to your destination.

That, and I can’t believe they’re throwing a fit over photography in Vegas of all places. Something’s up at that station, the rent-a-cops patrolling the station probably are doing something they shouldn’t be. Hiding behind a tin badge and a gun essentially. They think having a firearm gives them some sort of authority. False. Unless you are a sworn LEO, in any state I know of, armed rent-a-cops are subject to the same weapons laws that govern the average citizens of the state. Even more so in some jurisdictions. I know in Florida, the rent-a-cops can only carry certain types of weapons, and actually have to disarm themselves if they go “off patrol”, i.e. leave the gun stored in their vehicle if they go to lunch.

Anonymous
Anonymous

This is a fantastic idea.

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