More Homeland Security nonsense against photographers


A man who had been taking photos of the USS Yorktown – a decommissioned aircraft carrier in South Carolina that is considered a National Historic Landmark – said he was contacted at his unlisted phone number by the Homeland Security Office of the U.S. Coast Guard and questioned about his photography.

Carey Friedman, who posted his story on Flickr, said the person contact him also contacted his father, asking for copies of the photos he took.

Friedman said he is considering complying with their request.

I know legally, i don’t have to give them up without a warrant (i am a lawyer), but i also know they could get a warrant pretty easily. Don’t want to start a whole legal discussion, as much as a photographer’s one. I am pretty ticked about the prospect of now being on a watch list and possibly having to turn over my “art” when there is no real reasonable suspicion, other than the time of day.

Friedman, who lives in Richmond, Virginia, was on vacation in Charleston when the incident took place. He said he was confronted by a marina security guard who didn’t seem to have a problem with him taking photos.

It wasn’t until the following morning that he and his father were contacted.

He didn’t mention anything about the security guard asking for his personal information but we can assume this took place because how else would they know whom to contact?

If I were him, I would post the photos on my Flickr account, along with his story and ensuing comments, and send that the Coast Guard. But it doesn’t appear he has posted the photos yet.

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Anonymous
Anonymous

More and more it sounds like we’re living in a police state. Obama needs to undo some of these left over policies from the Bush years.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

All this fuss over an aircraft carrier that was decomissioned in 1970? I bet you can find a million pictures of the carrier just by googling her.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Tell them to pound sand.

I think you’re right in your assumption that he gave his info to the security guard. He probably physically handed over his driver’s licence. That was his first mistake

Anonymous
Anonymous

The crazy part is that there is some misinformed judge that would likely issue a warrant to have his computer and camera equipment seized and searched. We’ve seen that time and again.

Ever since 9/11 we’ve become a nation of paranoid idiots. “Oh look, he’s taking a picture of a building. He MUST be planning on blowing it up.” The sheer lunacy is absolutely astonishing. Even with photographers winning large settlements from city governments for wrongful arrest, etc, the police and government continue to operate with their heads up their asses when it comes to photographers.

Now if they see me photographing a building with a LAW rocket or RPG hanging off my shoulder, maybe they have probable cause. Otherwise they need to leave me alone.

I think I’m going to put on the traditional Saudi streetwear for men that I brought home from the Persian Gulf War and wander downtown and start photographing City Hall. With a couple of videographers in tow, I wonder how long it would be before the SWAT team sets up a perimeter around me.

If you can’t tell, all this continued violation of our civil rights really pisses me off.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

The Marina security guard probably reported his license plate number. With that, the “authorities” have everything they need to find you and your unlisted phone number.

Anonymous
Anonymous

The NYCLU is currently suing DHS for harassing and arresting photographers in lower Manhattan. I think a class action lawsuit should be brought against the DHS on a national scale!

Anonymous
Anonymous

These brave “officers” are keeping us safe from the Axis powers. After all, photos of this important ship would be very useful to Nazi Germany, Italy, and Japan. That’s why we locked up all the Japanese Americans, because they are all spies. We might be in danger of losing WWII if it weren’t for these souls who put their lives on the line every day.

Anonymous
Anonymous

It depends alot upon what Mr. Friedman was taking pictures of while visiting Patriots Point. There is more to the eye than decommissioned ships and old aircraft onboard. Visit this link for a little deeper look at why the port of Charleston has a higher security status than most US cities…

http://proceedings.ndia.org/7490/Beeson.pdf
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Anonymous
Anonymous

OMG! He took a picture of a tourist attraction! Send him to Gitmo!

Anonymous
Anonymous

This is a slight misrepresentation Carlos. I just read the guys account . He was taking pictures at 2 a.m. in the dark and the CG didn’t ask him about the Yorktown they asked why he was photographing the harbor, at 2 a.m..

Anonymous
Anonymous

Even if he was there at 2 a.m., what difference does it make? I live in Portland and we have a bunch of bridges that look great at night. The best time to get long exposures of the bridges is in the wee hours of the morning when there is less traffic on the river and the bridges.

I’m pretty sure shooting low light photography isn’t a crime either.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

Dear HS person,
I would like to comply but I cannot because:
A) I sent those pictures back to Admiral Yakamoto in June of 1942 to let him know when the replacement for the Midway Yorktown would exit the Panama Canal (11 July 1943 from google) but he is too stupid to know what an aircraft carrier looks like.
He then destroyed said carrier, removing my pictures from any relevant space-time continuum.
OR
B) They are my vacation pictures and I deleted all but three of them. The other pictures of “The Yorktown I ordered blown up!” (Bells! Whistles! thousands of eyes on this post! Lots of $$ spent reading it) to poster size and hung on my wall and you can’t have those.
C) YAAFM
So my answer is: NO!

Anonymous
Anonymous

makes no sense, story is fake.
coast guard cant be that stupid.
because asking someone to email them pictures doesnt prove anything? he should print them out and write “best place to place bomb”? no? how about a little circle with “a hole here will sink it”
well then what exactly will the pictures prove, since they cannot prove what the purpose of the photos are, what photos are missing, and why the photos were taken, plus the next step would be a letter saying please delete any cd’s or copies and delete your sent mail, please remove any flickr uploads etc etc, can you unmemorize the photo too, oh yeah and please remove the almost 7000+ flickr pics of the yorktown
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=USS+Yorktown+&m=text

Anonymous
Anonymous

@Peter Greene
I didn’t make any statement about whether it was right or wrong for the photographer to take the photos or for the CG to question him about them. My comment was about Carlos mischaracterizing the events that took place. The part about it being 2 o’clock in the morning and that the CG asked why he was photographing a commercial harbor (not the Yorktown) are pretty integral to the story.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Those details are still irrelevant because photography does not become illegal at night. Photographing commercial harbors at 2AM is not illegal.

Anonymous
Anonymous

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