New Jersey Cops Beat Student in Incident Caught on Camera

 

 

I’m beginning to think cops are trained to yell “stop resisting” when making arrests, even though the suspect might not necessarily be resisting.

In my 2007 arrest, the cops yelled at me to stop resisting, even though all I was doing was verbally protesting.

One cop told me, “if you don’t shut up, I’m going to tase you.”

They ended up charging me resisting arrest, but I did no such thing. I was being swarmed by five officers and I knew they would beat my ass at the slightest hint of physical provocation. I may be stubborn, but I’m not stupid.

Last month, when voluntaryist activist Pete Eyre was arrested for wearing a cap inside a courtroom, he was also told to stop resisting, even though he became extremely passive. And he was also charged with resisting arrest.

So I can’t help but be skeptical in the latest police abuse video incident taking the internet by storm where a group of cops can be seen piling on top of a Rutgers University student.

The video was shot by a witness standing a perch above the scene, according to the New York Daily News.

One of the cops yells at him to “stop resisting,” then proceeds to punch him several times.

The video is dark and it’s not clear if the student is resisting; at least to the point where he deserves to be punched.

You would think five cops would be able to handcuff him without resorting to punching him.

The student, Elliot Marx, 20, was charged with resisting arrest, obstruction, aggravated assault and having a fake identification.

Police said he jumped on an officer’s back, but that is not included in the video.

The incident occurred Saturday morning in New Brunswick after a parking lot fight involving 50 people.

Too bad that part is not included in the video because that may be fun to watch.

Comments

Hi Carlos,

I think you definitely have some great posts, however, this is not one of them. You can clearly see where the Police Officer's are wrestling with him (how else would you explain them flopping up and down?) Personally, I didn't see any "cheap shots" like some of your other videos contain. I do see the Officer's strecthing out his arms I guess in order to put the cuffs on him. Yes, there are many Officer's that are arrogant, power hungry and abusive but this post does not deserve to be labeled "New Jersey Cops Beat Student in Incident Caught on Camera" ... I think these Officer's did one hell of a job restraining him and I commend them and all the GOOD Police Officer's out there and YES they are out there.

- Jenny

I think that "Stop resisting" is secret code for "Stop being so passive, so it doesn't make me look bad on video when I kick your ass".

Jenny, you might want to watch it again, the officer starts punching him around :32 seconds of the video. There are too many officers trying to pull, push on the guy that the guy probably has no control over the direction he is going. I would explain them flopping up and down as the officers not being trained properly as to handle 1 person. There's too many of them and they are all trying to do something different to the guy and they are just flopping over each other trying to do their own little power hungry thing.

Maybe you should watch it again. They all aren't pulling and pushing him. They are very calmly trying to get his hands behind his back. There is no flopping over each other. Yes one officer does start punching him. Cops are allowed to punch people when they are resisting arrest. After he is handcuffed that stop using force.

If anything you should be showing this tape as an example of how the police should arrest a resisting subject. Jenny is 100% right on this one.

It's a clear case of abuse.

Bullshit. You can tell from watching the video that the guy is trying to pull his hands away from the officer. Watch the officer that was pulling on his arm. It's obvious that the suspect was using force to keep his arms from being put behind his back.

You can't see where the officer was punching but based on the situation, it's most likely he was punching the major nerves on his arms. Once you strike these nerves, the arm goes numb and it is easier to control the limb.

Carlos stated "You would think five cops would be able to handcuff him without resorting to punching him."

Really? Why would you think this? Have you ever tried to handcuff someone in real life? There is a technique trained in many police departments called the "swarm" technique where each officer takes a limb. I've been in many dog piles on the ground trying to get a resistive subject into cuffs. It's not easy. Freedom Fighter may say that indicates a lack of training but I seriously doubt he knows jack about arrest techniques.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with this arrest.

Agreed. It's posts like these that make me lose respect for Carlos. You cry wolf enough times, and everybody stops listening.

I have to agree with JL. The guy was clearly combative. My only concern is that with so many police officers, it's like too many chefs in the kitchen. It should take no more than two to handcuff him, in my opinion. Call me when real abuse happens.

Punching someone repeatedly in the face while he is down and restrained by 5 cops is just a regular arrest technique...?

So we have the Punch to the Face technique.
The Boot to the Head technique.
The Shoot 'em in the back of the Head technique.
The Tazer till They Expire.
The Coma Inducing Body Slam.

Which ones am I missing JLaw?

He wasn't restrained. Any idiot can see that. Did you see any strikes once he was handcuffed?

Really?

So he could spring up at will and do the Moonwalk right out of there?

Come down to terra firma JLaw. The O2 is fine. No need to change the rules on us. Now it's punch 'em in the face till the cuffs are on?

'Cause 5 250 lbs cops digging their knees into the victim's back and neck while bending his arms into a pretzel is not "restrained"...

Drama queen

You show me a drama queen and I'll show you a cop sock puppet who hasn't pistol whipped any bitches today.

He is restrained once he is handcuffed. Once again it is obvious you have no clue what you are talking about. Go grab a pair of handcuffs and try to cuff the first person you see on the street. Let me know how that turns out for you and if it was as easy as you seem to think.

Au contraire my black 'copter jockey.

It is okay for you to beat, kick, kill, taze, throw, paralyze, stomp, grind, shoot, and suffocate any and all victims. UNTIL the cuffs are on. The more cops the merrier. These are the standard techniques taught in cop school.

Have I missed anything yet?

LOL

Your troll engine is in overdrive today isn't it? Shhh...the adults are talking now.

Now your getting the picture hamy. If you don't like it too bad.

Just how many sock puppets is too many JohnnyLaw?

Carlos, you have to understand that the police definition of "resisting" includes "Not doing what I want you to do, even if you don't know what I want because I'm too busy using force to explain it."

*sigh*

People have become so conditioned...

Let me ask: if you found yourself on the bottom of dogpile, with five officers on you yelling conflicting instructions, and each of them striking retalliatory blows because you followed the conflicting orders of one of the other four, and you covered up your head, is that "resisting"?

Excessive use of force is so commonplace these days that it's unremarkable unless it happens to someone unusual, or someone you know.

hal

KBC:

something else to think about, the way they do it, is kinda like someone already in prison, that has been convicted and all, instead of concern about the public getting hurt or killed, their concern is protecting the officer, no matter what. well ya know what, thats pure BULLSHIT. tell that to the family of someone they just murdered because if this BULLSHIT, and thats exactly what it is!
Drive like assholes, and do whatever to effect an arrest, and they dont even know who they are arresting, cause that is what they get paid to do! Fuck if that aint a police state, innocent my ass.
That is why ya dont want to talk shit to an OFFICER, cause they know they can do all kinds of shit to ya, and ya cant do a fucking thing about it!
if there is any groups out there that want loads of video, set up some officers, with about four camcorders from all angles, then get the one thats going to take the beating, to walk up to a PIG, and tell em, "i fucked ya mom last night", and see what kinda footage ya get!
and by the way, that is legal to tell a COP that, even if its not true!

If adultery is illegal in whichever state you do this then you would be making a false crime report if the officer's mother is married and you could be arrested. If the officer's mother is dead you would be confessing to having sex with a corpse which is illegal and you could be arrested.

You should definitely do this.

+1

@KBCraig,

Except that isn't at all what happened in this case. What do you think the police wanted him to do? Crawl on four legs and bark? Roll onto his back and start doing flutter kicks?

If the cops are trying to pull your arms behind your back, logic would tell you to put your hands behind your back. It's obvious what the police wanted and it is obvious the guy was resisting.

The police were justified in using strikes. It was obvious that verbal commands and simple muscular force wasn't working. They also would have been justified spraying him or tasing him.

There's also the possibility they're not issuing commands at all, but uttering their favored CYA words. Any witnesses will remember the officers screaming things like "Stop resisting" or "Drop the weapon", and when the officer follows up with force (punches, baton, TASER, pepper spray, gunfire, whatever) the witness comes away believing the suspect disobeyed and "deserved it".

The trouble is, if one officer is screaming at the suspect not to move, another screams to put hands on head, another screams to disarm, and another screams an order to get down on the ground, it's impossible to obey one of them without disobeying at least two others. If the suspect is "lucky", they get zapped by four different TASERs at once. If not, then at least one of those officers will be firing their service weapon.

Even if all the officers involved are sincerely trying to control the suspect, Bad Things™ usually happen at this point. But all too often, the officers aren't actually issuing commands, they've already decided to shoot, and are following the advice of a more experienced officer, who advised them to yell their CYA words before shooting, so any ear witnesses or audio recordings will report that the shooting was justified, since obviously the suspect disobeyed and the officer had to shoot.

If were talking possibility's there is the possibility that the man they are arresting told them he has a gun and is going to shoot them.

The problem with police abuse of power is a very serious one. I have often commented here when it was clear that the officer deserved to be the one in jail.
This video however shows clearly a officer using the force he is required to use to subdue a suspect.
IF anyone cares to look at the map of excessive force at the website Injustice everywhere NJ has a pretty good record considering it is the most densely populated state in the nation. In fact one of the most densely populated places on the planet.
You will also find reports of abuse from the Rutgers police pretty low. This is not a example of excessive force, I believe it just happens to be the only one available lately.
It should be noted too that NJ has in its constitution one of nations strongest state protections of the fourth amendment. While at the same time one of the lowest levels of excessive force cases according to the Injustice everywhere statistical map. Police in NJ are given a decent living wage, Not the case in your typically non Union RED states that in fact seem to be the Red areas on the excessive force map.

So according to the mentality excused here you are not to fight for life, even if five guys pile on your back
suffocating you and proceed to take out the wolf pack let me get my licks in too on this piece of trash.
The street justice mentality of these ex-jock,veteran, steriod hyped thugs is sickening.
(with lip quivering) "I felt afraid." a quick pat on the wrist and it all forgiven,even if you get fired just move one county over and it's back to work, your license to kill covers it.

I think I saw where a guy because he covered his head to keep from being beat to death was charge with resisting without violence, so when a cop wants to kill you be it beating,electrocution or bullet to say no gets you either more of the above or a bull**it charge.

Isn't that about the size of it ?

boo hoo

Said the sock puppet as his balls shriveled up from continued steroid abuse.

@JLTurner

So you go out there and try to arrest someone that doesn't want to be arrested. Now bring a couple of your friends and have them watch. Once you realize you can't get the guy in cuffs, have your friends jump in and try to help. It's going to be a big dogpile before you will be able to get it done.

I know. I have to do this several times every weekend. I know you think the police can just jedi people into cuffs but real life isn't like that.

hal

oh JLT:

i fully understand now, why didn't someone say that before?
police dont want to shoot anyone dead, they dont want to break bones, knock teeth out!
they want the handcuffs on to protect the suspect from getting really hurt, or dead!
So after the handcuffs go on, then Mr. police would then stop talking shit, not make a false arrest, not hit me anymore?
but then again, as you just stated, "real life isn't like that."
i say to police, "if ya cant stand the heat, get out of the fucking kitchen", get another line of work to make a living. and leave me the fuck alone!
i sure as hell hope JL doesnt read that!

You see by telling us about how the police beat you up for no reason and then showing a video where you accuse the police of doing it to somebody else even though the video shows that police did absolutely nothing wrong really hurts your credibility.

hal

in your eyes they did nothing wrong! well ya know what, get rid of IA, and let me judge the police, i would be fair, or don't you trust me? i tell ya one thing, it wouldnt be swept under the rug like it is now!

Hal it's not that I don't trust but why would you be the one to judge the police? What are your credentials?

Carlos Miller - Photography is Not a Crime
Pixiq Expert

You need credentials to criticize the police? Where can one acquire such credentials? The police department?

He can criticize all he wants but he wants to be the one to judge them and determine whether or not they did anything wrong. He wants to be the one to hand out punishment and for that you should have credentials.

I don't know where you get them but I know you don't get them from behind a camera.

hal

carlos:
as we both know, that was an attack on me cause he hasnt a clue as to what i meant, and i think, never will!
Maybe this will sink in, IA and everything that has to do with the police policing themselves is a bunch of shit!
I am so glad JL is not reading anything i post anymore, and for anyone else that has a problem with anyone's grammar online, kiss me where the sun dont shine!

What are your credentials?

I'm a bike fixer upper

Michael is the internet expert on everything police related.

Bart, how does being a bike fixer upper give you the credentials to judge the police. Before you start telling the police how to do their job maybe you should go get a real one yourself.

OnTheBeat,

Bart is just being sarcastic towards the previous commenter.

Michael Kerney is really the bike repair guy that thinks he is an expert on the law and police use of force. I guess working out of your garage gives you some special insight into things. Bart actually has common sense and is one of the few pro-police people on this site.

So now you are openly referring to yourself in the third person.

It has been a breakthrough day.

Oh, in that case Bart nevermind. If Michael Kerney wants to answer the question I am on pins and needles.

Does he fix bikes or motorcycles?

Wow, JL has quite the array of puppets running right now.

He could start his own muppet show at this point.

hal

BART:

tell ya what, you, me and Carlos Miller. i think we would do a great job, better then the current IA is doing! now you may quote me, thing is, the system that is place right now isnt working, the fact we are even talking about it here is proof enuff of that.
Carlos, ya got me there also, if ya find out where to get some of those, please let me know.....:D
and by the way, BART you dont even know me, why dont ya trust me?

Hal, if you think these cops did something wrong than I'm afraid you would not be capable of making an unbiased ruling therefore I will not appoint you as the police judge.

If you don't mind me asking what do you do for a living Hal? BTW I didn't say I don't trust you.

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