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I hope that all officers involved in the matter are suspended for disobaying department policy. I also hope that the 2 officers that hit him are charged with assalt.

Is it that we have more people with cameras out there or am I right in thinking these kinds of things are really getting out of control?
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It is clear why force was used against the guy:
#1: The suspect moved his hand, which _could_ be dangerous, so the officer wanted to stop the hand movement.
#2: The suspect later moves his leg (he lifts if up), which could lead to the suspect planning to make a move. As such, the officers would want such a person to stop moving.

The problem is that the cops are so scared anymore, they take every movement to the extreme. If they were really worried about this guy being a threat, why was he not in handcuffs? Also, if you don’t want his hands moving, and you have reasonable suspicion to detain him, then cuff him. No reason to stomp to ‘stop the possibility of the suspect getting a weapon,’ only to then allow his hands to continue to be free to move about again!!

As far as the comment, that alone should be enough to at least fire the male officer.

One thing I would change in your story is where you mention a “handcuffed suspect”.. I don’t believe the man was handcuffed at the time of the assault although this story seems to be more about the derogatory language used rather than the assault.
They haven’t identified the female officer yet.. I’m not sure why. I’m very interested to see the results of the internal “investigation.”
This video pretty much plays right into every stereotype of police. The largest and most violent gang in America.. and caught on video.

I just read the story on why KCPQ wouldn’t air the video and why the videographer was fired… I’ll never watch KCPQ again. Fuckin idiots. Even the media is covering for these pigs now.

sorry for the multiple posts.. here’s the link to the story that explains the relationship between KCPQ and the SPD.. http://www.kirotv.com/news/23492858/detail.html KCPQ airs “Washington’s Most Wanted” so apparently KCPQ didn’t want to lose their moneymaker by airing negative footage of police officers. They have now sent a letter to KIRO asking them to stop showing the footage.

Kicking him in the head wouldn’t hurt, since he’s evidently got a head made of rock.

Kicking him in the balls, on the other hand…

It’s obvious the issue is testosterone poisoning. This can be cured. Surgically. No anesthesia needed for the tough guy.

Well, it’s good to know KCPQ and “news director” (Police Spokesman) Steve Krayci won’t lose their job with the police department.
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Listening to the voiceove, it sounds like the suspect is described as “uncuffed.”

I’m a little curious as to the videographer’s relationship with the TV station prior to is firing. He’s described as “working for Q13 Fox,” then fired from there after posting the video on YouTube. I work in IT, not television production, but essentially both produce software. Every employer I’ve had since college (a longer span than I care to confess) has required me to sign an agreement with a non-compete clause which states (among other things) that the company owns any (computer) software I produce during the time of my employment, and a couple years thereafter. Should the videographer be subject to such an agreement as terms of his employment at Q13 Fox, then his posting of the video on YouTube would clearly be a violation. I’m not justifying the stations actions, which seem incredibly petty in light of the fact that they rejected it, but it would explain why they acted that way.

The stunning thing about this story, outside of the abuse, is that it occurred RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET from a TV station. Seattle REALLY needs to issue an IQ test to all its PD applicants.

You’re right, Adam. He wasn’t cuffed. I’ve since corrected the post. Thanks for pointing that out.

And no need to apologize for multiple posts. There’s no limit here.

John Doe..

That’s the kind of reply (#1 & #2) we would expect from “Johnny Law”.

You sure you haven’t changed your name from “JL” to “JD” ?

Rail Car Fan

I agree.

If he is a freelancer, then I’m sure he met his obligations when he offered to Fox first and how could he be fired?

If he is/was an employee, I would say he is screwed as far as the copyright claims.

Bottom line – the video should have been aired!

Jerry

There are strange relationships between certain stations and the police. Some years back the ABC affiliate in this market (southwest city) had an “exclusive” relationship with the PD, getting to shoot videos of takedowns, raids, and other activities. In exchange that station ignored stories of drunk driving cops, rapist cops, thieving cops, lying cops, etc. Corruption really takes hold when the media “merges” with the government.

Well, Carlos, you made the headlines on Drudge with this one. heck. this isn’t even that bad a beating of what we have seen on this site. When o when are these idiot cops going to learn that everyone has a camera.

This video is on the top story on Drudge. What that means is that about 4 to 5 million people are going to watch this clip. Damn.

And the really sad thing here is that the cop involved is a highly decorated member of the gangs unit who has been twice recognized as his precinct’s cop of the year.

During a series on SPD’s gang unit he told KING5 this, “It’s not personal. It only becomes personal if somebody ever tries to hurt me,” Cobane told KING 5 in a 2008 interview. Cobane and his gang unit face some of the city’s most dangerous criminals. He told us how he handles them. “The beautiful thing about the street is you give a little respect and that gets you miles,” he said.

He has obviously lost his respect.

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Video-shows-Seattle-police-stomping-on-d...

Further the Seattle PI has posted this story that further describes the relationship between the videographer and Q13. He states that he was “on his own time with his own equipment.”

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/419701_video08.html

I live here in Seattle which is typically viewed as a very tolerant place, but the recent incidents involving cops beating unarmed people, teenage girls having temper tantrums and security that watches as one girl beats the shit out of another without lifting a finger makes me wonder sometimes what other undertones are going on here.

Cobane sounds to me like a real “hero”. I want him on that wall, we need him on that wall.

I’m old now. But in my earlier days this happened to me: I was involved in an extremely FUBAR situation with the police, the child protection people, lawyers and etc. I remarked to my attorney at the time and said, “ You know , if these people would just video and audio tape all these encounters, we wouldn’t have all this trouble!” and my lawyer looked at me kind of askance and remarked that, “ Yea, maybe, but then the government couldn’t lie about it later.”

I view it as a measured, thoughtful response. JL would likely have said “justified, period”. As John Doe points out, “Officer Safety” has become paramount to the point that anything other than complete and total abject submission is viewed as a danger to LEOs. So, for example, the normal response of protecting yourself from their blows is of course resisting and tantamount to assaulting a police officer.

I have to wonder if Detective Cobane would’ve made such an emotional apology had this not been caught on tape.

… Actually. No. I don’t.

His attorney wrote him a pretty good speech, and he delivered it well. But without the video, he’d be laughing about it right now.

Perhaps his performance will at least give other Seattle Police Officers a little reason to behave more professionally next time they’re in a similar situation, but I suspect the effect will last only so long. There need to be criminal repercussions for behavior like this.

A female officer and a black officer were involved in the abuse. One might say this was pretty diverse police abuse!

This is just another example of standard police procedure. Nothing to see here. Move along.

But more importantly, for those who still hold the “press” and “journalists” in some sort of august esteem, this is just another example of standard government sponsored media (i.e., main stream media) procedure. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Yeah, these officers were obviously suspicious this guy was some kind of ninja warrior who could inflict serious damage with the flick of a finger. And who knows, MAYBE HE WAS!! (snickle, snort)

Yeah, ain’t DIVERSITY wonderful?!!

Cobane wasn’t sorry for his actions.

He was sorry he was recorded, and outed.

Sinatra (Nancy) said it best:
These Jack-boots are made for stomping…
duh duh duh duh
One of these days these jackboots are gonna stomp all over you.

Newspapers too. San Diego’s Union-Tribune was bought a year or so ago by a hedge fund whose primary investor is the LAPD pension fund.

While it’s important to never let police brutality like this go unreported, I think most of the not-intentionally-blind public get it by now.

But it seems very few people understand how intensely major media outlets are in bed with the folks they report on—especially but far from exclusively the police. That’s the real story here.

Cobane is like any other criminal. Sorry, he got caught.

At what point – if any – does it become necessary and desirable to wage violent, unrelenting war against the criminals-with-badges and the persons and institutions that aid and abet them, in order to bring an end to the Nazification of America’s Police?
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What this tells you is that “highly decorated” may be essentially meaningless, as it is awarded through the prism of the tribalism of the PDs.

Has anybody watch Detective Shandy Cobane public’s apology? Apparently, he was very upset and crying, but not a single teared rolled down his face during his entire woe’s me performance. And I bet he was bragging to his fellow gang members about how tough he was before the video was released.

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Count me amongst those who’ve had it up to HERE with this crap of some “anonymous informant” providing bogus information that screws up people’s lives and when its all over the person is still “anonymous”.

“Fired” could just be the catchphrase for, “Kick rocks dude, we won’t accept any more of your freelance work here.”