Pixiq

From what I have seen you are better at confrontation than the average bear. Sure that woman could go back, but she doesn't come off as very tough, she'd probably just get intimidated into erasing the pictures again, nothing gained there. Now if Joey Boots was to show up with a camera that would be a whole different ball game.

Perhaps you should just return to the store and do what you're asking others to do. Typical fucking liberal... solicit others to do your dirty work. You probably blame cops for doing their jobs too. That is until you need them.

This is only going to drive attention to the store and probably result in increased business for them. Some things in life you have to just let go. The business owner is not significant enough to warrant this type action. The world is filled with ignorant people. Harassing/educating them one by one will get you nowhere.

If this were a cop or some famous retail store, I would have a different opinion.

BTW hank withers, this has nothing to do with political affiliation. The fact that you bring it up shows that you are a partisan troll.

Joey Boots +1

I'm always curious why people are so against photographing their businesses. Do they have something to hide? Actions like this makes me think they do, and if I were in NY I would happily photograph this store from a public street or sidewalk. :)

I don't know if calling it dirty work is right... it's more about strength/anonymity in numbers. I certainly don't feel she's weak for not standing up for herself... crazy people (and police) can be extremely intimidating in the moment to the best of us, regardless of our knowledge of our "rights".

Whilst not condoning the store owner's actions, it is not unknown for competitors to take photographs of shop windows to see if they can do better or indeed, to steal designs. Beware in malls. Secret of photographing in the street is to be discreet.

So what? Competitors have as much right to photograph the store and anyone else.

Didn't say they didn't have the right but be sensible. In a mall, there may be restrictions on "commercial" photography for good reason.

With rights come responsibilities too.

I take photographs in railway stations and have been "warned" off but I always have the written policy of the rail operator with me which I show to jobsworths.

In any public area there should be no restrictions but that depends on the country. Not sure they would be too sympathetic in Libya.

Inside a mall, you're on private property, and you can be ordered off it if you don't please the owners. However, I fail to see how they can order you to delete the photos.

I don't know the status of a sidewalk in NYC, but here in Socialist Bolchevic Communist Norway, a sidewalk is public property, and therefore a public space, making it perfectly legal to perform legal acts like photography there.

Wish I would've known about this earlier, as I was in the city over the weekend.

+1 for Joey Boots as well.

Go read this folks

http://www.digital-photography-school.com/street-photography-for-the-novice

Item 4 has sound advice

An important thing to note is that the store sells bootleg merchandise. Most stores in the area either sell costume jewelry, gray market electronics and perfumes, or knockoff clothing - almost all are combination of retail and wholesale. This isn't a retail store that can be knocked down by a few Yelp reviews, and these stores often only carry merchandise so cheap and of poor quality that it's not even in high demand by people who buy fakes.

In Venice Italy recently doing a workshop and the store window displays are the best to photograph not just from an art point of view but as a memory of what we saw and what street we were on. In one store in the window was a big sign: No Photos of our Window or Inside the Store, NO Drinks, No FOOD, No Negotiating
======NO SALE from us. We never stepped a foot closer to that store. Big deal photographing storefronts!

Marilyn

@Marilyn Sholin

Even if I had no camera I'd boycott that store. No this, no that they come off as douche bags and probably are.

Wouldn't a better response be to simply slip a letter under the door of the shop (non-confrontational) advising the owner of what rights existed that allowed a photographer to take pictures from the sidewalk and what right she had (as the shop owner/manager) to forbid photography in the store.

While I do think that protests can be effective (such as the Miami-Dade metro examples)- targeting a small shop where one person is uneducated as to the law kind of seems like overkill.

Photog buddy and I (with a video camera) are going there to see what's up. Any joiners?

zdroberts (at) gmail.com