One-Eyed Cop In Fullerton Beating Death Emerging As "Very Scary Individual"

 

With his glaring glass eye and imposing presence, Fullerton Police Officer Jay Cicinelli walked up to Kelly Thomas after he had already been savagely beaten and dropped his knee on him.

The one-eyed police supervisor then began striking the mentally ill homeless man repeatedly with the butt of his Taser, concentrating on a front portion of Thomas’s face.

Witnesses say he did this with the cold precision of a surgeon.

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That’s the story that was pieced together by citizen journalist George Hemminger in the above video after he spoke to numerous people who witnessed the July 5 police beating of the 37-year-old drifter.

Hemminger’s reenactment of the incident begins at 4:25 in the video.

“He proceeded similar to what a construction worker would proceed with hammering a hammer,” Hemminger demonstrated in the video.

“It’s very precisioned, very skillful, like he was trying to do damage to a certain part of the face.”

And that report coincides with the allegations made by an anonymous Fullerton police insider on a local radio show last week, who was describing what he had seen on the surveillance video footage.

The anonymous caller said Cicinelli’s blows were so hard, blood came gushing out all over the arms of one of the officers trying to handcuff Thomas.

The caller also claimed that Cicinelli later bragged about his exploits in the police locker room, which turned several officers off, including some who were already unhappy with his “heavy-handed” tactics.

Officials have confirmed Cicinelli was involved in the incident but have offered no other details.

Stonewalling The Truth

Meanwhile, investigators are sitting on a city surveillance video and at least two confiscated citizen videos that would show the world what took place that night.

The district attorney’s office said they’re not releasing the video because it could taint witness testimony, but they’ve already interviewed almost 100 witnesses, so there is little chance of that happening.

And the coroner’s office said they won’t confirm how he died until they do toxicology tests – which could take up to six months – even though a picture of Thomas after the incident clearly shows he was beaten to death.

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And the police chief has refused to take on a public face in this case, channeling all his statements through his public information officer. He also allegedly allowed the officers to review the surveillance video while filing their reports. So much for tainted witnesses.

And as they continue to stonewall this case, the public is becoming increasingly restless, protesting by the hundreds at city hall and in front of the police department and demanding the resignation of the chief as well as the release of the surveillance video.

And several citizens have taken on the role of the media – and doing a damn good job of it - considering the mainstream media hasn’t made much of an effort to expose the truth.

In fact, the Associated Press and Orange County Register continue to refer to the incident as a “fight” between Thomas and the officers when there is no indication he even took a swing at the officers.

Two Fullerton City Council members are also demanding the resignation of Fullerton Police Chief Michael Sellers, who waited a month before placing the cops on paid administrative leave as is customary during police homicide investigations.

Sellers had reassigned Cicinelli to the undercover gang unit before public pressure forced him to place Cicinelli on paid leave.

While it’s obvious the department is in dire need of new leadership, it is actually rotten from the core, according to many local critics.

From what we can gather, the Kelly Thomas incident began as a routine case of police abuse and torture that went completely overboard once Cicinelli pulled up to the scene.

Many locals say the initial complaint about a man breaking into cars came from The Slide Bar, a restaurant and bar whose parking lot is next to the bus depot.

And they believe there was nobody breaking into cars; that the call was simply a way of getting cops to clear the homeless people who tend to congregate in that area.

One commenter to the Fullerton’s Future blog said the city's cops even have a special room at the Slide Bar where they can drink while on duty.

In his reenactment, Hemminger explained that Thomas was wandering around the bus depot looking for cigarette butts as he had done so many times before when police confronted him.

The witnesses say they did not see Thomas breaking into cars before he was approached by a group of cops that night.

The cops then sat Thomas down on a curb and began questioning him.

At one point, Thomas became frightened and hopped up, taking on a fighting stance (he weighed anywhere between 135 to 160 pounds).

That was when police pounced on him, punching him repeatedly and dragging him across the street where they continued to beat and tase him as Thomas called out for his father, a retired Orange County sheriff's deputy.

Then Cicinelli arrived and applied the final touch.

“Very Scary Individual”

Cicinelli was described to Hemminger as a “very scary individual” by other homeless people in that area.

One homeless man compared Cicinelli to “a character in Moby Dick that had a vengeance” – most likely Captain Ahab who was hell bent on destroying the whale.

When Cicinelli “stood his ground on activities in the area, it just brought the fear of God” into the homeless man, according to Hemminger.

It still hasn’t been determined whether Cicinelli always had this mean streak or did it come after he was blinded in a 1996 shooting at the age of 26, just three weeks out of the police academy.

The man who shot him several times ended up sentenced to life in prison but Cicinelli ended up with his life-long dream of being a police officer shattered.

This is what Cicinelli’s mom told the shooter after his sentencing.

"You have taken Jay's eye, his face is disfigured, you have damaged his arms, his legs and his stomach, his job is gone and his dream of being a police officer is gone."

Cicinelli attempted to get keep his job at the LAPD, but got turned down because of his injuries. He ended up receiving a disability pension that will pay him 70 percent of his LAPD salary for the rest of his life.

Despite his disabilities, the Fullerton Police Department ended up hiring Cicinelli a few years later, allowing him to double-dip at the taxpayers' expense.

But now it appears he has worn out his welcome.

Comments

this is disgusting! with the FBI doing an investigation, maybe they will come out with what really happen, instead of another cover up!

jn

in the trial of Jimenez the guy who shot him up, the judge sentenced him to life because of "the helplessness of his victims" hope he gets the same judge

worn out his welcome, you think? he needs now to be in prison with that guy who took out his eye! this scumbag needs to really be off the street where he is a danger to everyone!
those others that were with him, need to also be there sharing a cell, for life!
unless they come forward with what really happened which i dont think there is a chance in hell

JdL

Truly bad cops are scary indeed. Even scarier is the fact that "good cops" almost never do much of anything to make the bad ones shape up or ship out. Relations between citizens and cops will continue to deteriorate, I believe, until police forces clean themselves up from the inside out. Or until we fire the lot of them and start over.

hal

JDL:
bottom line right there, i say also that is exactly what they should and need to do, fire all them scumbags and start all over!
PERIOD!

I've said it before, and I'll say it again and again. Until we force these cases out of the district attorny's office and turn them over to a special prosecutor that has no connection to local law enforcement there will be no equal justice when it comes to cops like this.

Excellent point, I'll second that.

Too bad they couldn't "cover up" the bloody
pulp they created on the hospital death bed.
I bet they're *pissed* that photo got out ....

great neon "police" sign...i guess the greatness ends there at that dept

"Sellers had reassigned Cicinelli to the undercover gang unit..."

Now I'm not a cop to know for sure, but can we say anything about the wisdom of assigning a cop whose name, photograph, and one-eyed face is very well-known, indeed notorious throughout the city and the media now, to an *undercover gang unit*??!!

If I didn't know better I'd say Sellers wanted Cicinelli dead!

Mike

"With his glaring glass eye and imposing presence, Fullerton Police Officer Jay Cicinelli walked up to Kelly Thomas after he had already been savagely beaten and dropped his knee on him."

"Witnesses say he did this with the cold precision of a surgeon."

How very dramatic.

I think I will wait for the video rather than re-argue about this nonsense again.

Thanks.

We don't need any more of your troll speak. And personally I can't see how you can top the asinine crap you are famous for anyway.

Quit while you are ahead.

Don't you mean while he's behind?

While J Troll fails at life, logic, the Constitution, photography, and being a fake cop on the internet...

He is an epic troll.

hal

got to give him/her that, does not fail at being an "epic troll"! and thats all he/her will ever be.
has anyone here ever seen JL, it is a girl or boy? got me wondering now.
doesnt really matter i guess!

hal

"I think I will wait for the video rather than re-argue about this nonsense again."


the only nonsense is your post talking that shit you always do!
and telling the truth is not being dramatic you jackass, when more then two people come up with just about the same story, and your saying and claiming its just dramatics.
just goes to show what type of jackass you are and where your coming from as you talk that shit you talk, JL!

did you even use your good eye to see the image of that dead man beaten to a pulp by them scumbags? some one tell JL i wrote that, and read it to him., thank you

Carlos Miller - Photography is Not a Crime
Pixiq Expert

This is information compiled from witnesses who have also given statements to the D.A.

They can stonewall all they want, but too many people witnessed the incident to make it disappear.

johny if the video exonerated the officers it would have been released the next day, Who are you kidding?

Even if the video does exonerate the police that won't change most people's opinions because they don't want to change their opinions.

Until the whole story comes out I will give the officers the benefit of the doubt. I bet some of the so called witnesses were not even there.

I have to wonder if any of these witnesses came forward before it hit the internet. As pro police as I am if I saw a group of cops murder somebody I certainly wouldn't keep my mouth shut about it until it became a big story.

"IF" that is the best you got, you have nothing "BART", now with all
those "IF"'s you have in your post/statement here, you may now
crawl back under the rock in which you live!
your a moron
wana be COP and you show it the more you speak!
has anyone
ever seen JL and bart in the same room? perhaps they are one and
the same?
"IF" you read what was already said here, "if
the video does exonerate the police", it would have been out already!
they would never sit on shit like that, they need all the help
they can get. what they doing is editing it so when it does come
out, it will shine the best light possible on them cocksuckers!
that is what is going on!
either that or, none of it will
ever see the light of day!
how anyone goes thru life with
blinders on, only seeing what one wants to see instead of the
whole picture, from both sides! it must be a terrible life to
have and deal with! People like bart smile at everyone, and
keep everything in until that moment when it gets so built up
inside, they have to let it out and beat the crap out of and kill
someone like they did to this man. then the only thing left is
the attempt to justify it instead of dealing with the facts
and trying to not let it happen again! ever! [its fucking disgusting]

I'm not even going to bother reading what you wrote until you can write it like a normal person. I will just assume it is nonsense.

huh.

That's the same thing we say about you and your puppet master Johnny Troll.

So far you haven't proved us wrong.

hal

hhamlet:
that was so good, i am not even going to try and top it. i am not going to answer him at all.

hahhahahahahahahha, that was gooooood! fofl

jn

hold your breath while your at it pork chop

Just don't be surprised if that description is spot on.

"That’s the story that was pieced together by citizen journalist George Hemminger in the above video after he spoke to numerous [witnesses]..."
Maybe the witness accounts were pretty dramatic as well.

Of course, if the journalist had pieced together stuff like "heroic police offices protect citizens from abusive homeless man" that wouldn't be too dramatic for ya?

Does anyone honestly think the video will ever be released? All the accounts I've been able to find describe the incident as a vicious beating, plain and simple. A video that in all likelihood corroborates this will be 'lost' or 'damaged.'

jn

if dad would file the civil suit already he could demand a copy. course they've had it so long now................

hal

drcos: it may come out, after the trial!!! them scumbags get off scott free, there i think will be hell to pay! i dont see that happening, there will be a scap goat though i think.

joe

Sadomasochism broadly refers to the receiving of pleasure—often sexual—from acts involving the infliction or receiving of pain or humiliation.

Do you think some of the abuse problems we see today in our police force could stem from the sreening procces allowing such indiviuals on the force and allowing them to leagally
persue their sexual desires and be hidden behind the color of law and such person or persons being prosecuted for civil rights violations when and if the proper investigation was conducted this should also be ruled out aa a possible motive.
That they need to be also charged with a sexual assault? I would think it should be proper for such jobs in civil employment to properly identify all canidates for employment to go thru screening and all presently employed officers to be reexamined,
for the possibility of latent tendancies or on the job experiences to bring out such desires.In the name of public safety.
Just food for thought.

jn

i dont know how that would apply to cicinelli as he got his dick shot off with his eye. and his attackers trial his mommy also said her son was hurt and confused that the attacker just kept hurting him while he was on the ground. his attacker also described in the same story as "heavily bearded". its the beard that sets him off.

jn

i dont know how that would apply to cicinelli as he got his dick shot off with his eye. and his attackers trial his mommy also said her son was hurt and confused that the attacker just kept hurting him while he was on the ground. his attacker also described in the same story as "heavily bearded". its the beard that sets him off.

jn, I know the site is slow, but please learn NOT to hit submit multiple times. Every post I've seen from you lately is duplicated several times. It especially doesn't help when most of your posts are asinine and pointless anyway like the one I'm wasting my time replying to.

Hey Johnny,

How does the photograph of the now deceased person hit you? If that was a picture of a a cop beaten by multiple people, would you wait for the video?

That guy was beaten to death in a terrible manner. His face is basically gone. How can you defend multiple officers doing this to him? How could they not control him? Why was he struck, even ONCE, in the face?

I have NEVER slammed you before, here, Johnny, but you've even lost me here.

Notliberal

One third of randomly chosen individuals play-acting as guards in the Stanford Prison Experiment exhibited sadistic tendencies.

Hierarchy is an unnecessary evil.

I read recently where a cop openly stated that the guys who WANT to be cops are not the ones they want on the force. There's a lot to that.

It is very sad what happen to this poor man caught in the middle of all this shit, he ended up dieing like he did. his crime was what, being homeless?
getting beat by a bunch of animals, not even human! and killed by a bunch of thugs, again not even human! does a human do this sort of thing to another?
will we allow this to happen and the animals that did this will not be held accountable for their actions, i pray this wont happen!
we cannot blame anyone else if this is allowed to happen, we are to blame if this happens and no one is brought to justice for this terrible act! if they are not stopped now, they will do it again!

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