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Carlos, incidents such as these are not uncommon in Philadelphia, this kind of behavior is just the tip of an immense iceberg, when I worked in South Jersey I had to service clients’ premises in Phily once in awhile, because I worked during evening hours I usually ran into their finest who wanted to know what my clearly marked company vehicle was doing parked at “unusual” locations “that late”, their demeanor left a lot to be desired, my FOP and PBA cards were pretty handy and saved me from unnecessary harassment or worse more times than I can remember, same deal in NYC during the Giuliani era, some of these guys are criminals with badges, plain and simple.

That’s when you know you haven’t secured your surveillance equipment well enough…

Good thing he had that video streaming off site… Thats the #1 best thing you can do, other than the fact that he should have secured his security equipment in a locked safe bolted to the wall and the ground. And those cameras should have been a little more secure than how they were installed. Not to mention he should have had a separate microphone installed to record audio from behind the counter if the cameras were disabled.

Wow this story is about to explode on those officers. If I was a store owner I would be adding a well hidden camera with a separate recording system. I found this story also on a police blog site:
http://www.policeone.com/legal/articles/1798823-Shopkeepers-claim-plainc...

I would like to see any of those LEO’s explain why the cops had to cut all the cameras out.

Hey Carlos how come no other websites out there have links to the video?? Many kudos to you for posting the video.

Thanks, Frank. I got lucky. One of my loyal readers sent it to me. That’s how I get a lot of my material.

Frank, Now that I look at that cop site, I see that they had posted the first story on this subject, when it was published last week, which is also included in my article.

But it wasn’t until this week the Daily News published the video along with the followup story, all which are included in this article as well.

Maybe you can link this post to that thread to give them the heads up on the video.

Carlos,
I tried to but you have to be a verified LEO to post on that site. I did send the info to the website contacts to see if they would post the link to your videos now that it is out. I would bet they won’t update the info.

Classic case though of cops believing the cops and anyone else must be dirty because the cops were busting them. I always said that was going to be my line in case I was ever interviewed for a jury duty case. “Well the cops arrested him so he must be guilty” Pretty sure the defense lawyers would exclude me.

It would be hard to believe without the video.

Seizing evidence is one thing. Destroying private property by cutting the wires is another. I can’t believe that the search warrant authorized that.

These police officers are thugs. I wish Jose Duran the best in his civil suit against the city.

The “War On Drugs” is one of the stupidest things every. It’s been raged for near 100 years now and it’s not any closer to being over than the day it started. It’s time to admit it’s a failed public policy and stop it. The only reason drugs continue to be a law enforcement issue is because of all the money that’s tied into this domestic war. When drugs become legal the number of officers needed with go down and departments will shrink. The number of people in jail will go down and jails and jail staff will shrink. The DEA will go out of business. These are the reasons the war is continually propped up.

The number one job of any goverment program administrator is to grow his program and his budget.

This is also an examle of the proper use of police resources. Seems there were about 5 or 6 officers involved for over an hour to make this raid. I’d guess that these raids take over 40 man hours of police time. They don’t result in any less drugs on the street but they do result in a store owner getting some kind of criminal record.

Where’s Jones? hehe

ClintJCL,

you beet me to it. I was just about to post that.

Well there’s video of the misconduct, so not much he can say to defend them. Perhaps I should take on Jone’s persona for a bit.

jones//Apr 1, 2009 at 12:48 PM

What you aren’t understanding is these cops don’t want a video made of their search procedures. This is confidential police business and could show how the officers conduct legal searches to find drug contraband. If other store owners saw this they could then figure out ways to get away with selling zip lock bags that have some printing on them. This is a very real threat to society and has to be delete with swiftly. We can’t have stores selling zip lock bags. There is no telling where this could lead.

Ziplock bags. I just can’t get over that.

And with all the issues in Philly. It’s not exactly Mayberry.

Do they really believe they’re going to cut down on drug sales because they remove access to the bags?

There are a number of other ways to pack drugs for sale.

“If other store owners saw this they could then figure out ways to get away with selling zip lock bags that have some printing on them.”

Classic.
I love it.

It’s a good thing the criminals are confined to the urban setting and that they can’t get out to the Costco in the suburbs. It’s a good thing that people in the suburbs don’t sell these obviously criminal items, these ‘baggies’…

Does it strike anyone as a sneaky way to give the police an excuse to harass business owners who likely are just running an honest business.

THIS IS FUCKING REDICULAS
they can not for any leagal or illiagal reson DESTROY private property if they are affraid that the store owner will show this they are right because it is illiagal not to mention ALL RAIDS ARE TO BE VIDEO RECORDED anyway for the Prosecuters and to cover their asses
but any way i hope those cops go to jail cause he didnt have any baggies and i am sure if they found any it was in their own pockets
DAMN BAD COP NO DONUT

These cops need to be thrown in jail. I’m sick of the corruption.

KILL EM ALL

Where is jones?

Bears Repeating…

Mr. Pataky, get a very expensive lawyer. In fact, get the most expensive one in town. Don’t worry about the fee; if you’re not guilty (of…what?) then you’re going to be receiving a lot of money from the Phoenix police department. These fascist cops just decided to underwrite all new computers and equipment for you. Accept their gift gladly, and then tell us all about it!

Here I am Duane, I’m glad you missed me. I watched this tape and I think the officer has a valid reason for being concerned about the camera because the camera is a live feed to an off site location. I wouldn’t want those camera’s rolling either while I was in there serving a warrant. Though cutting the camera’s is a bit extreme.

As far as the warrant I have two opinions. One is this is good police work if they got a warrant based on those baggies because they had reason to believe the owners were involved in drug dealing.

If they raided this place just because of the baggies and had no other evidence to suggest these people were dealing in drugs then, sadly, I must agree with you that this was a major waste of time and resources and should not have happened.

There is no video evidence that these officers stole money or merchandise. If they did then they should be fired and charged.

“There is no video evidence that these officers stole money or merchandise.”

Now gee, why do you think that is?

What bob said. You know why there’s a video camera on police cars? Because people lie. The cam is there to protect not only the cop but the person getting arrested from abuse. There’s absolutely no reason to cut the cord on the cams. None. This is such a thuggish move.

If you google about this case, it doesn’t look good for the narc team. In fact, it looks really bad. The so called informant turned and the ugly truth is coming out. Cases will be overturned. People will go free and rightly so. City will get sued.

Legitimate raids, big and small often use video cams. It protects the cops from wrong doing accusations. You see raids on TV/news with faces blurred out. There are reality TV shows such as SWAT/First 48/Dateline on AE that routinely show raids.

You knew something was up when they cut those cords.. don’t be naive.

I have to chuckle at jones still trying to defend the officers for their blatantly illegal actions, lol.

Andrew he has a very valid point though and i condon that point if they HAD a warrent for search and seizer based on more then just the baggies thats fine they have every right to raid the thing i have the issue with is they stepped WAY out of bounds by cutting camera cables i mean comon that is TOTALY distruction of privet property EVEN if they had a warrent…….

people like jones that are out there are the reasons we still have things like this going on in the USA. if more people stood up and said. nuff is nuff, then it wouldnt happen at all. no one can justify this in a million years!