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Show those cops who’s in charge. Pigs.

Thanks for the heads up Carlos, it’s really good to see another blogger with the guts to stand up to the goons. I am ESPECIALLY pleased that he also owns GoodPhoenixcops.com , and while it’s merely a placeholder at the moment he is willing to call attention to cops who do the job right.

Bookmarked his blog right next to yours. Keep up the good work.

TrueCrypt people… Seriously… 20+ character passwords to go along with it. They won’t crack a thing… And they sure as heck are not going to get the password for it from me.

This will grow more and more common. Does anyone seriously doubt that we are living in an Orwellian nightmare now? Cops raid someone because they CRITICIZED them? With all the crime going on in Phoenix and the surrounding areas, they go after a fucking BLOGGER? Wait…was it Phoenix, China? Nope. The Land of the “Free”. My ass.

ACLU needs to be all over this.

We are coming ever so closer to a police state. With the Obamanation in effect, the government is gaining control OVER the citizens. WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT.

It won’t be long until we have another civil war!… Us Americans are becoming tired of government by the second. To much taxation, way too much spending, and a whole lot of policing going on.

It’s a good thing we aren’t (yet) being watched by cameras everywhere we walk, like in the UK. And hopefully we won’t be “detained” for taking pictures of streets and buildings or POLICE!…

ACLU seems to be more about special rights over individual rights unfortunately. Wait, was the blogger part of a minority or gay? That might help.

This is yet another example of the rapidly developing assault on out First Amendment, and other constitutional rights in the US. From the passage of the Patriot Act, to the current pending legislation regarding search of computers for un-copyrighted files, and now to this example, we are close than ever to losing some of the most fundamental rights that were put into place to assure our freedom and right to privacy. I wish you success in your pending litigation.

Maybe you people should wait until the other side of the story is heard before you leap to judgment. Read the background on Pataky. He’s certainly no choirboy. He’s been indicted. He’s made violent threats unrelated to this police issue.

The judge saw the evidence before granting the search warrant. He saw what you didn’t.

This kind of raid is exactly what happens during a child pornography investigation, for example.

This could very easily be another Tawana Brawley situation. People there jumped to conclusions before the facts were heard. When the truth came out, the truth made fools of them.

And yet, if you follow up on most stories after the sensationalist initial period is over, Ziggy, you will find the police in the wrong most of the time. Which means it is a statistically safe bet to assume the police are in the wrong.

Wow. that is scary. It makes you wonder how many other police departments run like this. http://www.loveshoponline.ca

Ziggy must be another lying cop, trying to cover their ass.

Pataky has no criminal background, has never had a criminal background and only has some 30-40 police reports filed against him from a bitter, lonely ex-wife who can’t move on. His “crime” was picking a bad wife.

The man actually is a choir boy and doesn’t have so much as a parking ticket.

Samantha // Apr 3, 2009 at 3:00 AM

“Bloggers write about their opinions. Journalists report facts, and try to be as objective as possible. No, you don’t need a degree to be a successful journalist. But you don’t need an ounce of intelligence to be considered a blogger, either.”

Samantha, please share what you are smoking with the rest of us. Journalists report facts and try to be as objective as possible? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Where have you been girl, I haven’t read a news story in the lame stream media written by one of your so-called “journalists” that was 1) factual or 2) objective in twenty years! You are one weird cookie, albeit a hysterical one.

@ Samantha

Wait, so only bloggers state their “opinions?” Sounds like you need to go back to journalism school, because there’s something called an “editorial” which is a journalist or editor’s OPINION on a piece of news. Look around at all the instances of the major media outlets “editorializing” their front page (i.e., the hard-news, no nonsense, all-facts section of the paper, supposedly), and you will see that, if anything, bloggers are more honest than print journalists because they always admit it’s their opinion, rather than presenting talking points and other unprofessional nonsense as “fact.” Of course, there’s also the point that this guy never said he was a journalist. I used to major in journalism, ironically the idealism of my teacher is part of what convinced me to give up any contribution to the media conglomerate. Also, Hunter S. Thompson was her hero too.

“Robert // Apr 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Why not put microphones in thoes pricks badges?…”

Are you kidding me? how is this suggestion any different from putting cameras on the streets to control citizens? you are suggesting the very things you fight against… too many stupid people, that’s whats wrong with America. Great article, and great discussion.

When will there be real justice? The police are the thugs of the gov’t, the gov’t is controlled by private investors and wealthy people, the world is corrupt as hell. Normal citizens have to live within all of these stupid laws we do not even agree too, we are forced to conform, while others do not have too just because they have money.

I do not rely on anyone or anything for support, the only people you can trust in this world are yourself and maybe your family, but not always.

This is a dog eat dog world with cut throat tactics.

Always remember, that behind the police badge is a human being, who bleeds and feels pain just like everyone else.

This story sounds terrible, 4th Amendment rights are just as important as the 1st, and no one’s home should ever be violated without due cause. However, I’m hesitant to immediately criticize the Phoenix Police Department without all of the facts. Judge Donahoe issued a search warrant and unless more information comes out about a violation of due process, the police’s actions are legal and correct.

I encourage everyone to create and keep a distinction between Bad Cops and all of the other Cops. Bad People may become part of a police force but joining the police does not make one a bad person. The ideals of the police are to protect, serve and defend, and these are wholly admirable. We’re all disappointed with the conduct of a few individuals, not the system as a whole.
The best way to improve a system is not complaining or ranting on the internet; it’s to join the system and change it from the inside. Become a police officer or actively encourage upstanding, courageous young citizens to do so. We, the people, are the government and it’s police force and these institutions are exactly what we make of them. The fact that the blog BadPhoenixCops receives detailed information from ethical, selfless individuals in the Phoenix PD is entirely encouraging to me.
I join the Marine Corps six years ago; I do not inherit all of the system’s imperfections and I certainly can’t change the world all by myself, but I will make sure that wherever I am, no one is hurt that doesn’t need to be. I encourage you to do the same in Phoenix.

I’m here to tell you people and i’m talking about in the Phoenix area if you just sit back and allow this to stand then it’s your failure to act. The police work for us we don’t work for them. Go complain to the mayor or anyone else you can find. If you start throwing their asses out of office then someone will get the message

Wow, I’m really sorry about this. It seems like the police feel that they can do whatever they want these days. It is about time to have some more civilian oversight. I believe in a surveillance society; one where the citizens have the cameras. Hold the right people accountable and this stuff wont be happening.

Bye, Bye Samantha. Where did Ziggy go?

Boy, this discussion reminds me of a few of the times when a cop was blatently lying to a jury. One time, we caught the cop “jury tampering” which was really only having a discussion with some jurors during a break in his testimony. Which is a no-no, but in subsequent hearings in the judge’s chambers, caught him in 3 blatent lies, directly contradicted by 3 jurors testimony. When we left the judge’s chambers, I asked the D.A. if he was going to prosecute the cop for perjury (a felony) and he said, no, he was going to convict me of my 2 misdemeanors, and he did.
When the jurors read my guilty verdict, several were crying … they knew it was a travesty, but they thought I must be a bad fellow, why else would the cops be so intent on convicting me?
Another time, 4 cops jumped me, in the police parking lot, and then sat in the cell next to mine and combined their imaginations to create a completely false police report, so that all 4 reports were almost word-for-word identical, I was charged with attacking 4 police with a ball-point-pen (I was actually writing down license plates of illegally parked cars) proving to me that “the pen is mightier than the sword.” (They were all “heavily” armed.) What kind of IDIOT would attack 4 cops with a pen? Needless to say, the vidiotape of the incident was “accidently” destroyed, I pled down to “fighting in public.”
Carlos, keep up the good fight, from my perspective, it is only starting …

See my blog … Our Police State Needs More Police … ourpolicestate.blogspot.com
Remember … it’s OUR POLICE STATE … we “wanted” it, now we’re getting it, right up the A$$.

There is no difference between cops and gangsters.

stupid, stupid, stupid cops…what the hell? All the negative news lately about cops on power trips and now this.

Instead of bailing out the banking system, we should be bailing out the legal system. Either get the pigs some proper training or get rid of them. And that corrupt judge? I say get him off of the bench and take away his pension.

FRIGGIN IDIOTS

This is so disturbing and yet has the makings of a fantastic made for TV mini-series…

The fact of the matter is this was a gross affringement of “civil liberties.” First off the search warrant should have given a specific agenda for the cops i.e. arrest/confiscation. “petty theft” doesn’t warrant a search warrant it warrants that the “victim” of the “alleged” crime bring forth a case to be heard by the courts(pressing charges). As for “computer tampering with intent to harass.” wow so we are assuming without proof based on this statement the man is “going to” harrass (think they made a movie about “precrime”) with no evident crime commited. Innocent until proven guilty?? secondly there is no seperation between judges local lawyers and 911 dispatch. they all work in conjunction making them colleagues (associates) which means the cops knew what they were doing(guilt by association); and if they didn’t know it was wrong then their moral compass is so fucked up they must have been born with one foot already in hell. Constitutional perspective: violation of freedom of speach, detaining the girlfriend violation of habeus corpus, unwarranted removal of private property theft, entering a house on invalid premess breaking and entering. this mans rights were violated so to all you feel gooders wake up cause you know what you might be next.

excuse me “Infringement.” Dumb construction worker what do you expect.

sorry for so many posts in a row but these people piss me off. if the cops are good and “just doing their job” then why don’t they do something about the tweakers in my area that break into stores and houses and steal shit from us. no no no they don’t have any money. thats why. most of the stupid fuckers up here understand one thing and one thing only TITLE 46. Keep fighting friend don’t ever back down make them kill you to shut you up.

America sucks… time to TAKE IT BACK

This brings up the question of who polices the police? One can draw comparisons to religious or ethnic minorities, but they fail for reasons mentioned above. Rather, one should compare to other occupations. For instance, there are bad teachers, but their victims are kids who don’t understand why the tests don’t cover the material they learned in class, as opposed to people wrongfully imprisoned.

As to the journalist versus blogger, I personally dislike the term blogger. Used to be, you had to code your own site, and that required a certain amount of intelligence. Microsoft’s Frontpage was the beginning of the end of the internet being for the people that created it, and instead being for every dumbass with a cable bundle package. A journalist, similar to a reporter, shows what they research and draws some obvious conclusions. A columnist (one who writes editorials) does not have to do any real research, because what he writes is his opinion.

I would submit that this blogger thinks of himself as writing like a journalist, but actually writes editorials.

Now, on to the main point. As I understand it, a warrant is issued when there is illegal activity perceived to be going on. Although the indictment and trial procedures are no fun, until you are found guilty, you are innocent of the crime. If you are not found guilty, then all of it goes away, and the state makes amends. This man has had his stuff seized as evidence..he has not yet been found guilty of whatever with which he is charged.

I would submit to the folks here that they consider where the line is between a person’s job, and a person’s personal life. A government employee’s job comes with a certain amount of scrutiny and oversight on the part of the people….more so that someone privately employed. However, that oversight ends with the job of the public servant, and I think that THIS might be what the police are going after.

When someone takes off the badge and goes home, you cannot follow him, snoop on him, take pictures of his vehicles or property because, although you have the right to take pictures, you do not have the right to take them of him or his property. I think this “blogger” has failed to properly draw the line between the cop the person, and the cop the job. I also think that he failed to draw the line with regards to professionalism and emotional detachment. This is important, because, in this world of terrorism, and of the second guessers who have to make the head roll of the person to which the question “Why didn’t you see it coming?” is asked, everyone who seems a little unhinged could be the next Unabomber. Yes, you have the right to sound crazy, but the people have the right to be protected from the phony-tough and the crazy-brave, if I may borrow a phrase.

Oftentimes, with a warrant, you find a token crime they have committed to get in the door, so to speak, then you nail them with what the evidence supports. I do not think the crimes on the warrant will match the crimes he is convicted of, if any.

Like many things, in this day of electron fast media, the best thing to do is wait to see how it pans out, and form the judgments then.

1. Some places in Arizona are worse than others. I was visiting Bouse, Az. in La Paz County and I went to the Post Office. The Sheriff was in the Post Office and actually asked me why I was NOT carrying a firearm. He went on to lecture me that people who do not carry weapons are the cause of crime and corruption.

I explained to him that I was currently a California resident and did not wish to spend the rest of my natural life in a California Factory Prison, therefore, I did not “carry” anywhere except on my own property.

Two years after that, the DEA searched my home without a warrant- a common occurrence in Mendocino County, Ca., and stole both of my rifles, my shotgun and my pistol. I had broken no laws, had nothing to do with the drugs they were searching for. My pistol ended up on Craigslist, by the way. I found it by Googling the serial number.

I filed a complaint with the Sheriff’s Dept., they did nothing and when I went to the District Attorney to file a complaint, his Office would not allow a complaint against the Federal Government. Others had the same problem and were featured in the newspaper- Pre-Bush.

In fact, when I had previously called the Sheriff’s Dept to report a meth lab that was being illegally run on the acreage that I owned, the Sheriff and the DEA were NOT interested in busting the trespassers, nor in shutting down their meth-lab camp. I suppose that it was because meth-manufacturers are commonly thought of as violent criminals (I think the Police do not want to tangle with violent people who may do them harm) and organic vegetable growers are much safer to harass and oppress.

I eventually had to face down the drug makers personally and run them off my land. Happily, I have nothing to do with that area or those Public Servants any longer.

2. Journalists. I don’t mind if Carlos or this other fellow call themselves Journalists, although it would be my choice to term what they do “Investigative Reporting” or something with some validity to it.

“Journalists” as a species are predominantly as prone to lying, inveigling, obfuscating and inveighing as the Police are. I would not trust either a Journalist or a Police Officer to hold the leash of my dead dog while I looked the other way.

Samantha is obviously a Master Journalist, because everything she wrote was basically a transparent and bald faced lie. She fits into the category of lame-stream journalism quite well. I don’t get that feeling from Carlos. I feel that I could allow Carlos to hold the leash of a very valuable pet while looking in the other direction.

3. As I have resigned myself to living the rest of my life in this country (I really have no other country to go to, as I am a Natural Born citizen), I have decided that I will not live as an oppressed person any longer.

I will never again allow anyone to smash in my front door ($549 at Home Depot) and hold me at gun point while they ransack my house and carry away my belongings that were honestly bought and paid for, under color of their laws. Instead, I will shoot first and bury the evidence on someone else’s property. Sorry, but the fact that we cannot trust the Police in this country any longer has led to this. I do not break laws, I will not be treated as a lawbreaker.

Police, you are on notice. Your breaking and entering is the same to me as a thief breaking and entering. I would rather die with you than let you get away with it.

An Ohio Patriot in a County with an excellent Concealed Carry Law.

Kliegel,

But you are falling into the trap of “9/11 changed everything.”

The blogger in question never has made any threats on his blog towards the officers.

No, he is just printing information and gossip handed to him by other cops from within the department.

He is like the paparazzi who do not draw the line between celebrities on the job and celebrities off the job.

What he is doing is not for everybody.

But it is not against the law. If it were, then they would have drawn up more serious charges than petty theft and computer harassment.

When cops arrest people, that person’s personal information becomes public record automatically whether that person is guilty or not.

So suddenly the tables are turning for the cops and their indiscretions are being publicized.

The truth is, if they had nothing scandalous going on in their lives, then there would be nothing to publicize.

But that is not the case.

What this blogger is doing is pointing out the hypocrisies of the police department.

You also forgot to mention that they raided him in the midst of a pending lawsuit against them, which leads me to believe they did not confer with the city attorney before the raid.

SAMANTHA… YOU HAVE GOT TO BE THE STUPIDEST MOST CLUELESS “LIKE OH MY GOD” CHICK OUT THERE. YOU ARE DEFINATLY NOT IN COLLEGE, AND IF SO… GET YOUR MONEY BACK!! READING YOUR POSTS ARE HILARIOUS… YOU CONTRODICT YOUR PREVIOUS POSTS OVER AND OVER, AND ITS LIKE YOUR ARE COMPLETELY UNAWARE THAT YOUR PREVIOUS POSTS DON’T “VANISH” WHEN YOU TYPE A NEW ONE… YOU ARE DENYING THINGS YOU WROTE THAT ARE POSTED A FEW POST UP IN BLACK AND WHITE!!! HA HA HA, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SMOKING?? YOU ARE SO WEIRD… AND NERDY LOL… THANKS FOR A GOOD LAUGH, HA HA. WILL YOU BE MY FRIEND, COLLEGE GIRL “JOURNALIST” BTW, IF YOU EVER WATCH FOX NEWS OR MSNBC IT SAYS “NEWS” AND THEY ARE “JOURNALISTS” AND BY YOUR COLLEGIC DEFINITION…THESE NEWS TYPES REPORT “FACTS” AND TRY TO BE “OBJECTIVE” BIG PROBLEM THERE SAMMI GIRL… 50% IS NEWS “FACTS” AND THE OTHER 50% ARE “OPINIONS ON THE FACTS” AND THE SAME PEOPLE TELL BOTH FACT AND OPINIONS… SEE THATS WHY THERE ARE RIGHT WING NEWS, FOX AND LEFTIES, MSNBC. SAMANTHA, I GOT YOU A SCOLLARSHIP TO COLLEGE SINCE THAT GETS YOUR NIPPLES HARD, ITS “SCREW U”

Possibly a setup could be utilized here with ..wireless video..that broadcasts it to another remote spot. By the time they find the hidden video camera and demand the tape or drive, just point out that a friend is taking it to your lawyer even as you speak having been told to when the taping was stopped or the camera destroyed or confiscated. In fact a radio/microphone could be imbedded within something that you hope they confiscate and listen to them as they take it back. You could do a lot of things to entrap them.

Jon Brooks,

Now that you mention it, I wouldn’t be surprised if the police bugged his house during the raid to find out who he is talking to and what he is talking about when he thinks he is alone.

Thanks for putting this one out there, I appreciate that.

JON HAS A GOOD POINT

VIDEO DOESNT LIE, NAIL THOSE BASTARDS IN BLUE, LOVE TO SEE A COP IN JAIL

Kiegel comparing a civil servant intended to catch criminals (someone who damages property, endangers anothers life, or steals from them) to a educator of children is ridiculous. you want to compare occupations cops in my area brag about how dangerous their job is that it requires them to carry a gun no cop has been in a gunfight in my are nor died from anything other than poor driving skills i’m an electrician apprentice 30 of us die a year my job is more dangerous so then by that same logic should i be allowed to carry a gun.

also warrants are only supposed to be issued under REASONABLE ARTICULABLE SUSPICION (same as required for a cop to go beyond a terry frisk of your car) now what this means is there must be a decent enough amount of evidence to warrant a warrant. (hence the meaning of the word) the man was in court and surfacing information to the public that was potentially damaging to the whole legal system.

also your token crime statement falls under the guidlines of wrongful search and siezure. they can only go in/on the private propert and conduct a search limited by the warrant. so if the warrant is for the arrest of person A and person B is rolling joints they have to leave them be. many cases have been dismissed because of this. so i’m sorry your wrong. https://fortress.wa.gov/cjtc/www/led/ledpage.html this website will teach you a lot about what i mean. it is designed for law inforcement so they can read what other cops have done and how it was viewed in court.

also the sides of the cars at one time said “to serve and protect” how by enforcing a law designed to protect me from myself are they serving me(seatbelt law).

how by writing me a ticket for going 60 in a 50 on a road (go to your local bureau department for info) designed for 70 are they serving and protecting.

now in a school zone or in town probably a good idea to go a little slower because it isn’t your driving that is a problem it is everyone else you need to be paying attention to and be prepared to react for. but on a country bumb ass road who gives a shit.

and how does any of what anyone has said involve cop the job and cop the husband.

i was in a coffee shop with a cop two days ago and he was bragging about using his taser and how much fun it is.

bragging about how his goal every night is to get at least two DUI’s.

His goals should be to hope he never has to use his taser. Hopefully he won’t find anyone driving drunk. This would mean that what he is doing is working.

cops are a necessity but they have become something other than intended. as for a “blogger” using opinion to make a point. morals are formed from the majority of a populaces opinion laws are based on morals case file is based on laws. so what is you point??

also wolfboi I understand your anymosity and heartily agree with it. but just because someone is a cop doesn’t mean they need to be in jail.

oh and as for my point about habeas corpus i was incorrect to use that once again sorry not a lawyer stupid construction worker detaining the girl who had no apparent involvement was unnecessary and a violation of her civil liberties. she had done nothing wrong and they had no authority to detian/restrain her.

for the most part i don’t believe the cops are bad i believe they are dumb. they are to brainwashed and to weak minded to be able to look around and question what they are doing. it use to be a position of respect. people use to ask cops for advice. people who didn’t even know them. you know of anyone who does that now??

My brother was a Phx police officer for about 8 years. He left because of the corruption. He also said that “excessive use of force” is very common. He is now an Asst. Chief of Police in another town here.

Wow, some excellent discussion here.

Despite my own run-ins with the law, I also got feedback from cops who said they appreciated citizens insisting on oversight over public servents. The good cops have a very thin line to walk, they are constantly seeing violations of rights, civil and natural, and they would be imperiled if they “crossed the blue line.”
That said, if they become informers (think “Serpico” etc) the won’t have a very long career ;7) Still, I think the so-called “good cops” are also cowards, surely if I see police corruption, they must see more!

I once went to jail for 11 days, for riding a bicycle at night with no headlight. Each day, a sheriff would come to my “pod” and say something to the jailers, after the 5th day they let me meet w/my lawyer, he told me I was on the court calander every day, but the sheriffs wouldn’t walk me over to the court (600 or so feet through a tunnel)! They finally let me out at 2am, with a court date that same day, but one of my shoes was “missing”. No money for a cab or bus, a long walk w/no shoes (what good is 1 shoe?)

And a cop testified that my picture was “over the copy machine in the break room for 2 years!”

The judges are in league with the D.A.s and the cops, and the “internal investigators” are crooks too.

We are coming to a day when they either go full-1984 on us, or we go full 1776 on them!
peace.

Adam,

Things have changed. The USSC is now supporting KGB like actions.

also your token crime statement falls under the guidlines of wrongful search and siezure. they can only go in/on the private propert and conduct a search limited by the warrant.

USA Today

A divided Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that drug evidence found during an unlawful arrest arising from a computer error about a warrant could be used at trial against the defendant.

When police mistakes that lead to an unlawful search arise from “negligence … rather than systematic error or reckless disregard of constitutional requirements,” evidence need not be kept from trial, Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the 5-4 majority in the case from Alabama.

He was joined by the four other conservative justices: Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-01-14-court_N.htm

And when I got out, the school I worked at (I was a High School Teacher) was not too happy, wondering for a week what happened to me. I had previously given the principal a tape of me on the news – giving interviews on the courthouse steps – and told her my “civil rights” work would not interfere with my teaching and would (for the most part) take place on weekends and summer – she finally realized that I was in jail incommunicado, about the time My lawyer got through to me, the principal had figured it out anyway.

The best news for those in Santa Clara County now, is that the current DA (Delores Carr) didn’t file her Oath of Office when she was a judge, I found out about it by accident, and have a certified copy, and carry a copy of that whenever I visit that god-forsaken place. A get-out-of-jail card! But leading up to the election, did any news outlet care that 1 candidate didn’t file her Oath? Not even the so-called “political bloggers.” So I don’t have faith in either, they’re no better than the cops! Imagine that the local newspapers, police agencies, bloggers, nobody care(s) that the DA committed a felony when she was a judge! Somehow, judges are not “required” to “know the law” when it comes to them.

…. until we go full-1776 on them ….

Andrew DeFilippis tells us TrueCrypt critics have “genuine questions” about whether the program is safe to use. He adds: “Some people believe the program…may actually contain code that has a backdoor.”

TrueCrypt is open source. Thousands of programmers have examined the code. Perhaps “some people” could explain why none of those programmers ever found a backdoor.

Mark Read Pickens

Samantha is right! Real Journalists are people like Bill Oreilly, Rush Limbaugh, and Ann Coulter! Oh wait… I just threw up a little. As a Technology Journalist myself, you don’t need a degree. All you need is to be informed, to know what you’re talking about, and to have an audience willing to hear you.

If you’re missing the information, you’re an entertainer. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, you’re a politician. If you have no audience… you’re an asshole.

Thanks for all the positive comments and thanks for the great story Carlos.

Our latest Blog might explain things better

http://badphoenixcops.blogspot.com/2009/04/racism-in-phoenix-pd-and-more...

as we know what this is really about and the Mark Goudeau/Baseline murder trial is pivotal.

To quickly answer some of the questions here:

-We have had police “friends” sweep our house looking for bugs, videos, etc.
-We have had our police friends check our cars to look for “pigtails” (GPS devices)
-We are aware of our cell phone being tapped. We speak in code and meet in places with wide vistas in the open desert -one advantage to this shithole called Arizona.
-The police did not consult city attorneys. Right now there is chaos inside the PPD for what they did. The city is “up-in-arms” with the PPD especially now realizing their is pending litigation.
-We posted an internal email to the Blog that was top secret and sent from the City Attorney. It only shows we can get just about anything we want and only added more fuel on the fire. Source tell us another inside witch hunt is being conducted to find that leak.
-The affidavit was not attached to the search warrant and has been sealed.
-When the home was raided by SID (Special Investigation Div) they sent away the beat cops out of 900 precinct? Why? Because most of the cops support us and they couldn’t be trusted by SID.
-Locally, there is really not much on the computers. Everything was/is hosted somewhere else. The point in taking laptops, modems and routers was to stop us from blogging. One thing we forgot to mention was that they took all of Jeff’s bills too – water bill, legal bill, cable bill, electric bill, etc. – all to harass.
-Someone mentioned how the site is cyberstalking. We never once took a photo of homes, published addresses or anything of the like. That is against the law. We won’t ever mention family (kids in rahab, etc) – unless they are cops too. We got access to a Facebook page and posted personal photos of Tracy Montgomery, one asst chief. Everyone knows, if you don’t want it public, don’t put it on the web. They are all public servants and fair game.
-Following on all the Nazi comments here – the PPD has blocked the website from City computers and blocked all pod cast, recordings from all the media sites that picked this up like JD Hayworth and CBS. It wouldn’t surprise us if Carlos’ site is blocked too. All we need next is the Kristallnacht, a book burning and JUDA written on our homes and it is 1938 Berlin.

Many of you have sent emails asking how to help. We tell everyone to send the story to 20 people and tell them to send it to 20 more. Blog about it.

You may also send emails to anyone in the city of Phoenix as the emails are first.last@phoenix.gov

The mayor is Phil Gordon. City manager is Frank Fairbanks. Asst. City manager is Alton Washington. Chief of Police is Jack Harris.
Thelda Williams is an outspoken critic of the PPD and a councilwoman.

Here is a link to find more
http://phoenix.gov/citymanager/executiveteam/index.html

bush is a moonie

i didn’t mean to portray the idea that they always follow the law or that judges will never circumvent the law. i’ve been witness to that very thing during a court case where the judge tried to force my friends dad to sign away a car that his ex wife had sold after the judge instructed them not to sell anything and my friends dad had proven in court that her dyke girlfriend had forged his signature. so yes much to much is left up to the descretion of the courts and yes one courts decision is often hard to over rule all i am after is the constitutional basis. if you go to the website i gave you i read the other day a piece of case law where the cops had obtained a search warrant for arrest of an individual. the cops confiscated some methemphetamine and tools to make it and some people that were at the house that weren’t subject to the arrest per the warrant. the judge whose signature was on the warrant let them all go because the cops had gone beyond the scope of the warrant.

remember the supreme court ruled that if you do not beligerently demand respect for your rights you have none.

in the case of the man hosting this site. they didn’t even have reasonable enough evidence to issue a warrant. i hope he fries them all.

actually kind of interesting part of the divorce case i mentioned early here gregg. the lady my friends dad was getting divorce from was also a 911 dispatcher. after several years of all of us getting harassed and arrested because we helped him hide his money and the judges saw our names on stuff but could never link anyone to anything as having enough control to be able to give up money or property we found out that in our county not one DA Judge or Magistrate had their bounds or ouths of office. We took it to the FBI and they said they didn’t even want to deal with it. We tried to turn it in and the court just waited until the statute of limitations ran out to respond to us they all went and got their bonds and ouths.

here is another fun one from my county. local city cops were called to a scene where they were told a man had a some kind of gun. the man was a retarded man who wondered the streets of the town many people knew him and interacted with him regularly. we live in a pretty small rural area so not a lot of hobos. it was night in a very well lit parking lot and in no place in this parking lot could a person be more than 50 feet from another person. the man had a paint ball gun. the official report said both officers emptied their clips the man was struck three times. they murdered a retard one of the officers is now a sherriff anfter the incident and the other is a state patrol desk jockey.

if you gotta murder a retard to get promoted whats it take to get elected here??

This has gotta backfire on the jackboots, right?
Now outraged bloggers are write stuff about these events and subpoena documents and post them online just for fun.

Arizona sounds like a great place to live, whats up with this state? it seems like this is the test zone for violating peoples rights.

Another great website about Arizona

http://www.checkpointusa.org

Ziggy,

an indictment is not a conviction, and the case was dismissed due to lack of evidence.

and as most people know a Grand Jury will indict a ham sandwich.

no, “we” did not see the evidence, and that will come to light eventually. evidence submitted for a search warrant is curiously lacking. handcuffing a woman in her home for 3 hours under a search warrant that lists “petty theft” as probable cause is in itself petty.

also, including some allusion to “child porn” is disingenuous at best. be afraid…they are coming to get your children, those unpatriotic people in this country who question authorities and demand answers.

“fuck those cops, i hope they fkn die”

“You Fuckin Pigs….. Your time is coming, always.”

“Why not put microphones in thoes pricks badges?”

“you are a rat b@st@rd no good fvcking cvnt! Pi$$ off! Fascist wanker!”

“The police are the thugs of the gov’t”

“The police are nothing more then a mere gang”

“There is no difference between cops and gangsters.”

“stupid, stupid, stupid cops”

With vitriolic remarks like this, it’s no wonder that police officers have no real interest in participating in this website.

If people here are serious about police reform and engaging in discussions like responsible adults, here are four websites you should visit where you can interact directly with hundreds of police officers on a daily basis:

http://forums.officer.com/forums/

http://community.policeone.com/forum/

http://www.policelink.com/discussions

http://policebackground.net/Forum/index.php

You must register for each forum in order to post. The debate is civil but lively.

In closing, I read the first comment quoted above just after reading a news report about three Pittsburgh police officers shot in cold blood this morning. I guess the deaths of these fine, brave, honorable men who died protecting you, the public, is something you find admirable. I pity you for having so little regard for human life.

Another satisfied customer.