Pixiq

1 year ago

Wow. What awful people. But hey, I'm sure they will claim they were just "doing their job." And I'm sure after the "investigation," even with video evidence, the police will be rewarded or given trophies or something.

It's so sad we don't have peace officers any more that would have just followed the guy out and been done with it. These people just always use as much force as they can as a first resort.

Without the video, there would be no investigation. With the video, there will be an "investigation." I guess the officers will be told next time to seize all the cameras.

Rich

1 year ago

So this guy was supposed to be allowed to push and assault everyone he wanted to on the way out of the building without being stopped. The man stopped being peaceful when he assaulted a innocent bystander. SO exactly what were the police supposed to do? Allow him to continue to attack everyone as he left the building. Did you forget to watch that part? Did that part just bypass the I hate cops no matter what blind spot?
I have posted other replies here when a cop is wrong I say it. The Force stopped when he stopped resisting. Its a good thing is was caught on video so the officers can be plainly exonerated of any accusations.

009

1 year ago

Assault may be the correct word here, but simply because there was an "assault" doesn't mean that simi-deadly, violent, force should be applied. Separate the two and write a citation for the assault if its that big of a deal. Is the man in the wrong for hitting the guard? Yes, is it worth risking the first man's life over? No. Meeting violence with more violence isn't the answer. It's the reason cops get killed and so many people dislike them. When there is a big crowd the best solution is to keep the situation calm and not allow it to escalate. What they did was escalate it. Again there is fault on all sides here.

Bob Holderman

1 year ago

I think its pretty obvious here the guy was resisting arrest and tasers were ineffective. Its also pretty obvious the cops were pulling punches with the batons. This is actually what I'd like to see more of with arrests, It only escalated when the need arose, the guy didn't end up needing stitches or medical care, and the cops weren't hurt. I think it went as well as these things can go. The only problem I really have is then the cops went for the face with their batons, but again its pretty obvious they were being careful.

1 year ago

In what way was he resisting arrest? Where was he placed under arrest? He was being escorted out.

He pushed a security guard (notice he did not hit him, his arm pushed the guards arm), at the most he should have been arrested for assault, which would have been an initial request to stop, put your hands behind your back and get cuffed.
Instead before he even comes back from the pushing the guard he is tapered.

Then the cops hit him in the head and neck with batons. Pretty sure that is not allowed.

Can you tell me the time stamp where they tried to state he was under arrest or where he resisted? At no point did they try to arrest him, they simply hit him and electrified him.

Talk about mental gymnastics, faced with a clear and concise video you still find a way to say the cops are fine in what they did.

Bob, are you related to JL by chance?

Johnny Law

1 year ago

The guy pushed the guard and looked like he was ready to continue and do it again. Once the guy got violent, the taser was justified and the cop probably felt it was safer to tase him than come up behind him and grab a guy who was obviously ready to fight.

I think the taser must not have be working properly because it was completely ineffective. The prongs might have misfired.

I actually think the strikes to the head and neck were excessive though. At least they are through my departmental training. It looked like the officer was aiming for the collar bone but we are prohibited from doing that because it is too easy for the strike to roll up in to his face. Head strikes with a baton is deadly force and it wasn't justified in this case.

I do think the baton strikes to the meaty part or the thigh while giving verbal commands were appropriate though I have to wonder why they didn't use OC spray.

1 year ago

It's just so sad. There were SO many ways that violence could have been avoided. This could have, quite easily, been ended without anyone getting attacked. But unfortunately, as JL likes to point out, the police are trained to escalate and use violence first because they have more adrenaline than most people or something. The security guard who shoved the fan was shoved. So what? No one was hurt until the police attacked. In the days when police served the people, they would have just followed the guy out and that would have been the end of it.

This video also points out how the police have more rights than the average person. If I took any of those actions against a policeman, I'd be jailed (if I survived the beating the other police would give me) and charged with attempted capital murder.

I think the police should change the slogans on the side of the vehicles that used to say "Protect and Serve" to "Fear Us: Violence First."

1 year ago

here in florida, i can tell you. if a security officer would have done that to anyone at a Florida Marlins baseball game, he would have been fired. and perhaps even lost his SO license!
that SO in the video had no reason, except maybe ego, to touch anyone while that FAN was coming down while walking out, [I would add, as was instructed to do so]! high fiving means nothing, and didn't, from what i saw, stop that guy at all while he was on his way out. That OFFICER should have had his attention on what happened, if he didn't see what the SO did, and if he did see it. He should have instructed the SO to keep his hands off of the FAN, and then told the FAN that it would not happen again, and then just continue to walk him out!

But this is not what happen, the COP took it as an assault to him, and he then started to attack the FAN, this is plain wrong!
i think even with the video, nothing will happen to any of the COPS, or SO's. even though the video shows that they are in the wrong, 100%!
IT JUST A BASEBALL GAME, DAMN IT! WHAT THE HELL YA THINK WOULD HAPPEN, FANS HIGH FIVE FANS AT A BASEBALL GAME, IT HAPPENS, GET OVER IT!

glad that FAN didn't have a camera. his body and camera would have been smashed!
and glad they didn't seem to see you using your video camera when you got the clip that ya did, you may have had a broken camera. and i think your right, some COPS will be next time looking for anyone that may be using a video, i can see it now! SIR, please stop that video NOW! [minding this is at a major league baseball game] and if he doesn't, i can imagine what kind of hell would break out.
only thing worse, for the COPS that is, i can think of, the FAN being either Carlos or someone that would do the same as he would..the video and outcome i think would be awesome!...LMFAO.

Sutherlands

1 year ago

Here's the article that goes with it:
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_731701.html

1 year ago

@RICH

does anyone still remember its still a BASEBALL game? people drink, people high five......ITS A DAMN BASEBALL GAME!

The high five did nothing, the SO put his hands on someone when there wasnt just cause! this is a fact, the COPS didnt react like they knew where they were! FACT-they were sorrunded by thousands of baseball FANS, GET THE FAN OUT OF THE STADIUM, THEN IF HE DOESNT LEAVE AND DRIVE OFF, THEN DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO, BUT FIRST GET HIM OUT OF THE STADIUM!!!
does that make sense to anyone else? I sure hope so, it sure would ruin my day if it did not!

does anyone here know what a riot is, and how fast a LARGE crowd can and will get out of control? the way those cops handled that situation, it makes me wonder if they recieved any if at all, crowd control training!
i was not there, but if its true that the crowd was already throwing whatever at the COPS, soda....food...etc, it sure as hell would have told me, get this situation under control and get this fan away from this location, like NOW!

1 year ago

That's either one tough hombre, or one weak jelly wristed cop doing the beating. I'm guessing a combination of both considering he took the taser like it was nothing.

He obviously had plenty of support in the crowd, but it is amazing to me how fast the officers broke out their ugly sticks, and even more amazing that they were hitting him in the neck and head.

1 year ago

There is a 2nd video here as well... http://www.wpxi.com/news/27495643/detail.html

It shows a news station producer getting arrested. She's the woman you hear yelling "Stop it" in the 1st video.

1 year ago

@Rance

I see that even in the criminal complaint it says the crowd was spitting..throwing all sorts of food...etc. so then, it shows what i said was true! it sure shows in the video that the police were not dealing with the crowd at all in what they were doing! good there is video of this, maybe now any COPS will get some sort of proper training before they are at another BASEBALL game or whatever!

the video clearly shows they were dealing with the situation as if it were on the street or something! with all the food being thrown, and spitting going on, why wasn't there more arrests? isn't that also battery? oh hell, they should have arrested everyone that was yelling, then sorted them out when they got back to the COP station! then they could have brought the teams as well and had the DAMN BASEBALL GAME AT THE FUCKING cop STATION!!!!
sure as fuck seems to me, the COPS were the ones that were inciting a riot! [But i am not a COP, and that is just an anti cop thing to say!]

1 year ago

Agreed Hal. This arrest went down badly (understated I know, but I haven't had my coffee yet). I don't disagree entirely that he should have been arrested, due to pushing the security guard away, but what the cops did after that was deplorable.

There was absolutely no food flying in the video, just more gang like brutality from Philly's "finest" public servants.

I don't blame Scott Ashley at all for grabbing the baton. There's no telling how many more times he would have been hit, had he not grabbed it. I hope he gets a good attorney to go after the city.

1 year ago

Thanks for posting that. I hope they fire her ass!!!!!!

1 year ago

Why do you hope they fire her? For telling the cops to stop beating a man in the head and neck when there was no obvious aggression towards them, or for her drunken attempt at using her clout as a producer? People say alot of foolish things when they're drunk, though I think she was right in telling them to stop beating him. At the most, I feel she should be reprimanded and/or put on disciplinary leave, though I don't feel they should fire her.

1 year ago

You brought up good reasons to fire her. First of all she deserved to be arrested. She was interfering with those officers doing their job. She had no business sticking her drunk nose into that situation that didn't concern her and she had no idea what was going on.

I think it becomes firable when she starts introducing her job into the situation. I wouldn't want somebody like that representing my business and she would be canned.

Being drunk isn't an excuse to do whatever you want without consequences. Who gets that drunk at a ball game anyways. I go to the ball game I take my son and maybe have a couple of beers. People like her is why it's better to watch the game at home, they ruin if for other fans. If you want to be get drunk and act like an ass than go to the bar not a game.

Sounds to me like she thinks she is a lot more important than she really is. She thinks being a producer gives her the right to interfer with the police, like the police have to answer to her? They answered her alright, she didn't like the answer but I did.

1 year ago

Yelling at the cops from the stands is not interfering with the cops doing their job Danzinger. I don't know what makes you think that.

She only brought up that she was a producer of a news network when they put her on the ground face first and handcuffed her. I doubt it would have happened at all, had they not paid any attention to her.

The "inciting a riot" charge that the police were contemplating charging her with, is tantamount to "contempt of cop". Either way, shouting at cops to stop beating a man who isn't resisting, is not an arrestable offense.

She was charged with aggravated assault (not evident on the video), defiant trespass (she had a ticket to be there. Even if she was being ejected from the stadium, does verbally objecting automatically make that defiant trespassing?), and disorderly conduct (didn't I already mention contempt of cop?). The charges they brought against her are bogus.

I agree with you that being drunk doesn't give you a free pass to do anything you want, but simply being a police officer doesn't either. The sooner cops learn this, the less taxpayer dollars will be spent for settling lawsuits in their respective cities.

By the way, KDKA (so far) is defending her, as I feel they should. There was no justification in arresting her.

1 year ago

"Yelling at the cops from the stands is not interfering with the cops doing their job Danzinger. I don't know what makes you think that.

It's called being drunk and disorderly. They told her to leave so now you have trespassing and you could even probably go with inciting a riot.

"She only brought up that she was a producer of a news network when they put her on the ground face first and handcuffed her. I doubt it would have happened at all, had they not paid any attention to her."

Ignoring law breakers is not the M.O. of the police. A lot of people were yelling and acting like drunk fools. For her to get singled out makes me believe she was going above and beyond. 2 cops can't arrest 100's of people, you take the worst of the worst.

"The "inciting a riot" charge that the police were contemplating charging her with, is tantamount to "contempt of cop". Either way, shouting at cops to stop beating a man who isn't resisting, is not an arrestable offense.

What do you have to do to be considered resisting? Grabbing a baton isn't resisting? Refusing to leave isn't resisting? Did you miss the assault on the security guard?

"I agree with you that being drunk doesn't give you a free pass to do anything you want, but simply being a police officer doesn't either. The sooner cops learn this, the less taxpayer dollars will be spent for settling lawsuits in their respective cities."

Your right, cops can't do whatever they want. I'm sure these cops didn't want to have to deal with a bunch of drunks. They were probably enjoying the game until they got called for this. They were doing there job, they were removing a drunk from the game. What do you want them to do say he doesn't want to leave let's just forget about it. That was a big guy and apparently pretty dang tough what do you want them to do have a fist fight with the guy?

"By the way, KDKA (so far) is defending her, as I feel they should. There was no justification in arresting her."

So when KDKA defends one of their employees it is a good thing but when the police defend their employees it's just the blue wall protecting bad cops.

joe

1 year ago

Connecticut is considering a bill that would make any police officer "who interferes with a person taking a photographic or digital still or video image" of a police officer performing his or her duties liable for damages, provided the citizen did not obstruct or hinder the police officer's performance. It appears to be the first time such a bill has been considered by a state legislature.
http://www.rcfp.org/newsitems/index.php?i=11815

CT. Bill:
http://www.rcfp.org/newsitems/docs/20110411_110844_conn_bill.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVmKEzaS_Dw

1 year ago

so then, we now know the COPS were using deadly force against a drunk at a BASEBALL game! [if a COP says it, its got to be true!] they didnt use spray, for some reason. [makes me to start and think, maybe they werent COPS at all, but nonCOPS wearing the badge!] now that would make total sense as to the training they got, it was NONE!

a whole bunch of COPS at a bsaeball game and none of them had any spray, is that even possible? and even if they did have spray, they use the TASER and deadly force? [makes me wonder if COPS hear what they say, when they say things?]
"looked like he was ready to continue and do it again" and "obviously ready to fight." ????? wtf? but that was in the same statement by.....DUH. {I THINK I AM A COP}!

in the VIDEO, the COPS made so many mistakes, I am glad no one got really hurt, so it was said, and it could have happened very easily! There were no professionals in those videos!

when that FAN gets interviewed as to what happened, and hear his side, please anyone that hears about it, please post it here for us to hear and see!

JJ Swiontek

1 year ago

It looks like the Taser was ineffective because of the jacket the man was wearing. The Taser barbs were fired into the back of the jacket and did not penetrate. Just my opinion of what I could see from the video.

Tijuana Joe

1 year ago

Was this posted already?
Adam Mueller arrested right outside the Sheriff's Office
for videotaping Piggies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVmKEzaS_Dw

1 year ago

First of all they are not piggies. They are police. Not all of them deserve any respect but many of them do.
You would not call all black people niggers, and you would not call all Mexican people spics (unless you were an ignorant racist moron), so therefore please try to understand that while there are many examples of bad policing available, there are also many more examples of undocumented good policing.

People like a story, the drama sells, the video of the cop saying have a nice day after helping the lady across the street does not sell. So you will never see it.

As for my Adam got arrested, well, he was asked to leave the property, and that is not public property, it is paid for by the state, maintained by the state etc, but courts have routinely ruled it is not public property, they can ask him to leave, he did not, at which point he was trespassing.
The felony citation is a joke though.

1 year ago

@JIM

A piggy is in the eyes of the beholder, if one sees a piggy then whom am I to argue?

If someone has a problem with words that are being used, while there are people out there getting arrested and whatever! some even ending up dead.
[AND I SPEAK FOR NO ONE ELSE WHEN I SAY THIS, ONLY FOR ME!]

then one needs to get a life! as far as I concerned, when one knows a crime is being commited and does nothing about it, even though its a fellow COP? then what? I say that COP is just as guilty as the COP committing the crime! So are they all piggies or criminals?

so now all the COPS will say, they didnt know about what other COPS do! When they are all at the donut place, or beer place, they dont talk about what went on that day at work, they talk sports and family!

1 year ago

hal,

There is a Reply button under each persons post, this then puts your reply in line with the person you are speaking to and makes things much easier to follow.

He made a statement calling all cops pigs, this is simply incorrect. Not all police deserve that name.

Categorizing a large group of people based on the action of a few of them is not rational, it is discriminatory. It is also simply moronic to do so.

Also, your pattern of using "one" to refer to people, due to your constant use of it you do not look intelligent, you look like you learned a new word and are looking for every opportunity to use it. If you wish your statements to be taken more seriously then I would suggest dropping the phrase.

1 year ago

Sure, Jim, categorizing a large group based on the actions of a few isn't fair. However, categorizing a large group based on the actions of the majority is reasonable. I honestly don't believe it is a few policemen.

It appears that the vast majority of policemen will use force first. It appears that the vast majority of policemen will enforce unjust law because "they're just doing their jobs." It appears that the vast majority of policemen will do anything they want and almost never have to face punishment because they have more rights than non-policemen.

I used to believe it was "a few bad apples" -- but sadly, I do not believe it any more. When I see a policeman headed towards me, I am now in fear because I know that they could decide to beat me and arrest me, even if I've committed no crime -- and I have no recourse.

I wish you were right, Jim, and I wish there were only a few policemen that behaved poorly. But don't forget -- they're trained to use violence first and always against anyone who doesn't cower and lick their boots.

1 year ago

JEFF:

that is what i meant, but i don't think some, got it. thank you for saying it in a way that some may now understand, but i still doubt that they will. some people don't get it, and never will.
As far as JIM is concerned, i do not have to justify myself to the likes of a person like he is, or anyone! I talk the way i talk, and i spell the way i spell, and if anyone here don't like it,
then, take a long walk off of a short pier!

Jeff, it is exactly like you say, most, 75% at least, of em "PIGGIES" know exactly whats going on, and either are part of it, or choose to ignore it, which i HAPPEN to think, JIM, is just as bad! {if not worse}! and until it stops completely 100%, as far as I am concerned, they are all PIGGIES!

AND JIM! CALLING SOMEONE A MORON THE WAY THAT YOU DID, IS "simply moronic"! that was done in that way, just in case your hard of hearing! [i really don't give a shit if i am taken serious by anyone, i am here to have fun with the likes of you and your stomach ulcers!]

1 year ago

So hal,
What you are saying is, you are a troll?

Well, I will make sure to report you to pixiq so that they can permanently ban you since trolling is against the terms of service you agreed to when you signed up.
Thank you for clarifying that for me.

You are welcome to talk the way you talk, and spell the way you spell, but since that is the only way that anyone here can get an impression of you then the impression will be that you are of a lower intelligence than your average table top.

And I would like to point out that stating something is moronic is clearly defined as seeing the behavior as being likened to that of a moron.
In other words, the actions are what a moron would use, therefor it is a warning that people are perceiving you as a moron when that may not be the case. However, if the shoe fits.

1 year ago

Jeff,

While I know it feels as if we are fighting an avalanche with spoons here it really is not like that, I would say that a good 65% of the police do a good job, the problem is that the bad 35% are so bad that they completely overshadow the good ones.

I too feel trepidation the moment I see an officer, I should not. I should welcome the smiling face of my local boy in blue, instead I fear the scrutiny of the local boy in black fatigues strapped to the gills with weapons and trained in hand to hand combat.
My local police officer should not be wearing more body armor than I wore in the Corps.

1 year ago

65/35? We could argue for ages about the numbers. Also, if you count the cops who do nothing when others do wrong as "not good" cops, I think then the number of "not good" would run closer to 90%.

Either way, 35% is a HUGE number of people who are running around using violence as a first resort, and can continue to without any fear of reprisals. That's just wrong.

1 year ago

@Jeff Ober:
the problem has been identified, now what does anyone that is concerned enough to do about it?

(1)i think what some are doing by confronting and educating those that would question the right to photograph. this is a good one to start this list with!
(2)when anyone sees what they think, are COPS going too far and injuring the public, and in some cases, causing death. then contact the officials that were voted into office, and let them know how you feel, and what you think should and needs to be done.
(3) If this happens to you, either bring a lawsuit, file charges, etc. I believe if enough do any of the above, the numbers will grow and something may even change.
I am sure those that may read this, will have a few more items to add to that list, and i would hope this is what they do.
Doing nothing! Just sitting on the couch or whatever does nothing, and you get the same results.

nothing!

[JL was the only one on the ignore list, the list currently has grown to 3!]

1 year ago

Really, the standard for cops wearing body armor should be what you wore in the corps? To be honest with you I know a few of my local police officers and they wear a bullet proof vest on patrol, does that intimidate you for some reason?

1 year ago

I never stated there was a standard, you should be asking yourself though this.
Why would a police officer need body armor?
A vest? Maybe I can understand a vest, there are some complete idiots out there these days.

But why are police dressed in tactical gear with guns strapped to thighs? They are police, not swat or whatnot.

Johnny Law

1 year ago

They need body armor because people shoot them.

Most police aren't dressed in tactical gear. Usually it is only some special units. However even if they were, so what? What is the difference to you if a gun is strapped to their hip or to their thigh? A gun is a gun is a gun.

Heaven forbid the officers have comfortable and functional equipment. People bitch when officers wear BDU type cargo pants instead of polyester trousers. Well the fact is that BDUs are more comfortable and durable than polys. People bitch that officers wear combat boots instead of dress shoes. Newsflash...combat boots protect the ankles and give the officer better traction than dress shoes.

The uniform doesn't make a damn bit of difference except it is just something else for you to cry about.

1 year ago

It is called the militarization of the police force.

Frankly dude, I am done talking with you, cops can do no wrong according to you and as with any cop you always have an excuse lined up and ready to go.

Talking with you is like trying to talk to a young earther and explain scientific data. You just give me a headache.

Johnny Law

1 year ago

"Frankly dude, I am done talking with you, cops can do no wrong according to you and as with any cop you always have an excuse lined up and ready to go."

That's a lie and you know it. You just want to come on here and spew your anti-cop venom and not be called on your bull.

Take your ball and go home if you don't want to have a discussion then.

1 year ago

"I used to believe it was "a few bad apples" -- but sadly, I do not believe it any more. When I see a policeman headed towards me, I am now in fear because I know that they could decide to beat me and arrest me, even if I've committed no crime -- and I have no recourse."

Paranoid much?

I mean seriously, your afraid of the police but you would probably be the first person to run up to them and stick a camera in their face because it is your right. That doesn't sound like fear to me.

I use to walk downtown a lot on my old job and had to walk by people who really scared me. I didn't do anything to antagonize them. I didn't stick a camera in their faces even though it was my right to do so. Why, because if I did I probably would have been shot or beaten very badly. So why would you do that to a cop who you "fear" so much?

The problem with you people is you don't hold people responsible for their own actions. I have no fear of being beat up by a cop because I don't put myself in the position for that to happen. Show me a video of a cop walking up to a random person at the ball game and for no reason taser them and I will show you a bad cop. Until then don't act like a drunk asshole, don't steal, rob, beat your wife etc etc and the cops will leave you alone.

http://www.pixiq.com/article/police-handcuff-man-videotaping-investigati...

1 year ago

Here you go, that video you asked for.

Obviously this is not a ball game, but this officer had zero reason to even approach this citizen.

1 year ago

That video doesn't show a beating of a random person, that is what I asked for. I don't want to argue that video but the police do have the right to confiscate evidence.

My biggest concern is your an ex military guy and you claim you are afraid of cops and are intimidated by their big bad uniforms.

1 year ago

oh shit, JIM is a leatherneck? or is it a jarhead? well whatever, they all think they all better then all the "others" that are not!

jim, find a beach head, attack, and leave as all in the real world alone! :D damn a leatherneck, who would have thought?
was it WWII or NAM? how many did ya kill, if any? it is true, there are 100's of ways to kill a man with just two fingers?

i will choose not to answer, his post, in any fashion, no matter what i say, there will be your feeble attempt to reply with nonsense that you think makes perfect sense! So i will hereafter say nothing to JIM! [dont want to risk being killed with only two fingers, or is it one?]

[JEFF.....LMFAO 65%/good cops AND 35%BAD piggies, i dont even believe for one NYC minute that you even believe that one..... :(]

1 year ago

Again, no ability to hit reply. Just sad.

Jarhead works, we take pride in the name.

It was neither WW nor Nam, I was not yet born.
How many did I kill? 6.

" is true, there are 100's of ways to kill a man with just two fingers?"

Actually it is even easier, using 1 finger you can simply pull a trigger.

Please note it was I who made the statement of 65% good 35% bad. Not Jeff.

Oh and you have been flagged and every post that you make which is trolling will also be flagged.

1 year ago

"oh shit, JIM is a leatherneck? or is it a jarhead? well whatever, they all think they all better then all the "others" that are not!

jim, find a beach head, attack, and leave as all in the real world alone! :D damn a leatherneck, who would have thought?
was it WWII or NAM? how many did ya kill, if any? it is true, there are 100's of ways to kill a man with just two fingers?"

Do you think you could possibly sound any more like a patchouli stinking tree hugging hippie? Is it even possible? You're pure scum man. Pathetic.

I might not agree with everything Jim says on here, and at times I'll admit I'm a total asshole, though I have the common decency to respect his service to this country, whether he served in wartime or not.

Jim, from a veteran USN Gunner's Mate, thank you for your service.

1 year ago

RANCE:

just because one has done some service does not mean that they deserve respect just by doing so!
and FYI i did a few years myself!
and yes it was in the U.S. military!
Flag this JIM! no disrespect intended, i mean that in a good way!

1 year ago

You have a point Hal, because I still don't respect you.

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1 year ago

she should have been arrested....for what? so she got a big mouth, is that illegal. oh ya...me bad. depends on what ya say!

for shouting too damn much...naw thats not illegal! oh shit, depends on if ya shouting and a cop hears ya and it takes him away from doing what he aint suppose to be doing in the first fucking place!
they needed to GOOGLE, "escorting someone out of a baseball game" maybe they would have known what the fuck that meant!

those cops dont need to be arrested, they need a rubber room!
and a straight jacket!

Anonymous

1 year ago

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