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I had already read about this on Slashdot. Excellent work by Rachner. Maybe he’ll get some sort of award from the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) for what he’s done.

The sad thing is, it’s clear the cops violated the law but they’ll never be touched for obstruction of justice for hiding the tapes from him.
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“Why bother? With charges dropped, Rachner says a major incentive now is protecting his trust-sensitive career in which he is “frequently subject to background checks.””

Since you think the victim, Gabriel Scott Clark, is a ‘little bitch,’ do you think the same of Rachner for taking this all the way? I knew this blog was anti-cop corruption, but I didn’t know it was also anti-victim and pro-people-should-be-able-to-do-whatever-the-hell-they-please, damn-others.

Haha the guy is a little bitch? Who wants to deal with a bunch of assholes fucking around at multiple bars? Rachner shouldn’t be taken in for refusing to give ID, but taken in for disturbing the peace. Fuck him.

The “victim” called the cops because he was hit with something soft and foamy and got heckled for getting pissy about it.

Sorry, no injury, no harm done whatsoever, nothing but an incredibly minor inconvenience at best. Pretty hard to call him a “victim” of anything. So he gets upset and the first thing he does is calls the government thugs to come and teach some stupid drunks a lesson that were not doing anything harmful or violating anyone’s rights.

Victim? No, he’s a little bitch.
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“Gabriel Scott Clark acknowledged he wasn’t hurt, he just happens to be a little bitch who now lives in Miami”

I hope you can clarify that line before I unsubscribe from your feed.
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“little bitch” is uncalled for Carlos. On the other hand, is not tirning over your id worth getting arrested for? How about picking and choosing your battles?

“Sorry, no injury, no harm done whatsoever, nothing but an incredibly minor inconvenience at best.”

So you feel the same about someone who would put fecal matter under car door handles? I mean just a minor inconvenience to wash your hands and such.

““little bitch” is uncalled for Carlos.”

I wonder, if I put poop in an area where someone would touch it, would they be “little bitch” and call the cops, or would they man up and just wash off their hands? No physical harm done, and washing off ones hands is just a minor inconvenience.

Yes, not turning over your id is worth getting arrested for. If you aren’t willing to stand up you might as well lay down.
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I agree he is a little bitch based on the evidence provided. However, dealing with people in the bars can be not worth the trouble. Would I call the cops? Probably not, but that was his choice. He probably didn’t want them arrested.
Either way, the cops were in the wrong.
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The guy got hit by a little foam ball. Then they made fun of him.

Then he called 911.

To me, it should take a little more than that to get the cops involved.

I would have just blown it off and walked off. It’s only a foam ball.

U see this yet?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/04/22/2010-04-22_libertari...

Joe Doe wrote: “So you feel the same about someone who would put fecal matter under car door handles? I mean just a minor inconvenience to wash your hands and such.”

Well, there’s also the risk of being infected by somebody else’s e-coli, no small matter.

The real issue here, despite Joe Doe’s attempt to sidtrack the discussion, is that the police made a bad arrest and then conspired to cover their tracks. Its all to typical of law enforcement all accross the board. Once one of them tells a lie the rest clam up and refuse to help bring the truth to light. I can’t say I blame them, an “accidental shooting” at the police gun range could prove fatal.

This blog is a First Amendment blog. If I believe the “victim” is a little bitch, then I will say he is a little bitch.

And if my readers disagree with my opinion, then they are welcome to state their opinions.

Joe Doe wrote: “I knew this blog was anti-cop corruption, but I didn’t know it was also anti-victim and pro-people-should-be-able-to-do-whatever-the-hell-they-please, damn-others.”

Now just WHAT blog have you been reading?

If I believe the “victim” is a little bitch, then I will say he is a little bitch.

HAHAHAHA! I love it.
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people who write comments under aliases are cowards. I’ll give you my real name and address, my DL number and occupation because what I have to say comes from me. Cowards who take the 1st amendment to mean that they can say whatever they want and still remain anon are just what I have said.

This is the most important story to come out of Carlo’s movement. This man is a national hero.

The saddest part of the “drug war” and the post 9-11 mentality is that we have militarized our local and state police forces. They have nothing but a it’s us against the enemy mentality. and the enemy is us. I just want to cry about it.

steveo wrote: “The saddest part of the “drug war” and the post 9-11 mentality is that we have militarized our local and state police forces. They have nothing but a it’s us against the enemy mentality. and the enemy is us.” Yeah, its distorted the whole idea of what law enforcement is all about. For my money the “war on drugs” is nothing less or more than “The Law Enforcement Officer’s Right to Work Act.”

its not about “picking your fights” and deciding if its “worth it” to get arrested over refusal to show id. its about what’s -RIGHT-. the cops shouldn’t be asking you in the first place, and if they’re wrong, you should not give in.

good job on this blog carlos.

and yes, that guy was a little bitch.

You seem to have quite a fecal matter fixation.

Do you see some link between foam balls and fecal matter no one else does?
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Holy crap, a psycho-anal-yst!!

“So he gets upset and the first thing he does is calls the government thugs to come and teach some stupid drunks a lesson that were not doing anything harmful or violating anyone’s rights.”

People just want to have a good time and don’t want to have to worry about a bunch of assholes playing urban golf and getting hit in the face with a foam ball. Drunk people swinging golf clubs around is not exactly what I would call a safe situation.

Spokker,

The story doesn’t say they were using actual golf clubs though perhaps they were. In any case, the guy didn’t call the police because of menacing individuals with golf clubs, he call the police because he got hit with FOAM. Drunk people with golf clubs may not be SAFE but it’s not ILLEGAL either. Should it be? Do you really want law enforcement trying to protect you against everything that is potentially unsafe including foam balls? I hereby declare you to be a little bitch too.
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It was clearly disturbing the peace. The foam ball can land in your soup, topple over your drink, or simply annoy the shit out of a ton of people.

Yes, law enforcement should step in and stop the offender. You’re a piece of shit.

Poor little Spokker. I’m sorry that you think law enforecement should stop everyone that might annoy anyone else. Clearly it is the purpose the police to make sure no one is ever bothered by anyone. Does this apply to noisy children? Should the police stop them too?

You must be a lot of fun at a party. I’ve changed your designation to Stupid Little Bitch.
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Well Spokker, the information provided said he was hit with a soft sponge ball and not a golf club, right?
Then the little turd decided he could not live with such terrible abuse and calls in the thugs bearing badges. When a kid hit me in the head with a basketball, unintentionally, I yelled “Ya gotta use something harder than that to hurt this old man!” and threw his basketball back to him. The thought of calling the cops never entered my mind.

Well, Spokker, somebody could also fart in a crowded elevator but nobody is going to call the cops over it.

I’ve helped to get people evicted from my apartment complex because myself and others called in noise complaints to the local police department. Accumulate too many complaints and the landlord kicks your ass out.

Bwahahahahahah yes, the police do settle matters related to noise and annoyances and many people seem to agree! You lose, the little bitches win!

Well, yeah, when people can’t settle minor problems amongst themselves like adults, the police sometimes have to come and do it for them. And then the landlord gets sick of dealing with a bunch of children…

If you win at being a “whiny little bitch,” is that something you really want to announce?
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Spokker, that’s the way it should be. When a whole bunch of people in an apartment complex are fed up with the nuisance created by one or two individuals then out the miscreants go. However, if one whiney little jerk is complaining and nobody else is……

I agree with Carlos’ assessment of this guy. Those foam balls are very soft and he way overreacted to the situation. Americans are conditioned to dial 911 at any annoyance. The justice system should not be used for every single incident. Only serious threats to life or property should warrant 911 calls. A father of a 10 year old boy called the sheriff one night at a popular restaurant near here. The reason was an adult woman (who had been drinking) asked the kid to let her play a sit down arcade game he was sitting but not playing at. The father got mad and dialed 911. Two deputies wasted half an hour over such a silly thing. This ranks right up there with that.

Aside from that, every time you call the police, you put yourself at risk. Police misinterpret situations, statements, etc. and if you call the cops and say the wrong thing, YOU can be the one arrested, ticketed or (as we’ve seen plenty of on here) beaten to a pulp with no provocation whatsoever.
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Yes, we’ve reached the sad situation in this country where one is smart to avoid the police except in the most dire of circumstances.

How were the cops in the wrong? The police can request ID & arrest you for not providing ID if they think you have already, or are likely to commit a crime.

Now i’m no expert on Urban Golf, but doesn’t that mean that you had a group of drunk louts running around with golf clubs, going from bar to bar… Because i’m no cop (or USA law expert), but thats a good enough grounds for a stop & ID check here in Australia.

Especially since the cop will be unlikely to understand or care that you are playing urban golf. It all depends on point of view guys, you should look at it from both sides of the equation.

-M

or are likely to commit a crime.

Thought police are my favorite.

really? Thought Bloggers are my favorite. Seriously though, you see a group of guys walking down the street, drunk carrying around golf clubs & you’ve had a report of someone being hit in the face by something, the first thing that leaps to mind is not “Urban Golf.”

The first thing that leaps to mind is drunken arsehole looking to cause trouble. Now this may not be the case, but as a wise man once said “When you here Hooves, don’t think Zebra.”

-M

I appreciated his ANALogy.

You’re clearly not the Spok that was given the gift of logic.

If i get hit by a foam ball from a bunch of drunks and they laugh at me, ill kindly respond by throwing the ball back at them and tell to F off!

WHAT? And pass up the opportunity to really screw up somebody’s life? For shame!

Did you read the article? No they CANNOT arrest for failing to provide ID, regardless if they think you have or are likely to commit a crime. They can only arrest you if they have probable cause to think you have committed a crime.

Jeez.

Yeah, calling the cops seems a bit more of a dullard move than just calling it quits for the night. But I have been pushed around by pillocks and their toadies before. It sucks. But I have never been driven to call the popo.

But don’t forget, if these asshats wouldn’t have been acting shitty in public, no one would have had to call the cops to begin with.

The police, being the characters that have the guns, tasers, armor and “backup” should have just diffused the situation and moved on.

Sow, meet reap.

I agree, what happened here was a turd met a shit pile and the cops were called in so it REALLY began to stink!

The problem with statements like “little bitch” is that they reduce the credibility of this important blog. Many people who can be persuaded by the reporting are dissuaded by the rhetoric. A shame, and so self-indulgent and unnecessary.

So I’m guessing its okay to show up at a restaurant and start batting whiffle balls around? How do you settle a dispute with someone who is already bent on disturbing the peace like that? I wouldn’t call 911 but if I were the manager of the joint I would call the non-emergency number.

I’d have picked up the foam ball, put some fecal material on it and stuck on their car door handle.

You say, “Hey fellas, why don’t you take it somewhere else. Please don’t do that out in front of my establishment.”

Don’t bitch out and call someone over some harmless drunken fun, be a man and handle it yourself.

You carry fecal matter around with you? Remind me not to shake your hand