Pixiq

$15,000 is not enough for false arrest let alone the theft of her property.

I can’t wait to see what RAIL CAR FAN has to say about this but we already know!

“The police can’t do anything right!”

and

“They should all be fired!”

and OF COURSE

“I have no idea what I am talking about but I always offer an opinion anyways!!”

Don’t forget:

“I am fixated on Johnny because I think he is a true hero! Deep down I really admire cops but I can’t admit it so I get on here and rant!!”

Isn’t that right “RAIL CAR”!?!?

God she is so hot! Carlos can you get pictures from this hot article I found? This is shocking! They are lieing to us!!

http://americaspeaksink.com/2010/07/alert-giant-hole-in-floor-of-gulf-re...

I agree that they’re not asking for nearly enough, but hey. Sadly the cops will want the video to remain suppressed as part of any settlement, so we’ll probably never see it.

@Johnny

Wow, somebody’s gotten under your skin. LOL. XD
Michaelk42 recently posted..Unsurprisingly- Pogan gets no real punishment

$15,000 is chicken feed- in NYC the cops routinely pay $30,000 to settle. In these cases you need to sue for an amount equal to the sum of the annual salaries of each cop involved AND have them stipulate to the court that they broke the law.

I’ve found that when the ACLU gets involved, they always ask for too little.

The ACLU likes to win cases. Easier to win a small settlement than a large one. At least, that’s the first argument that entered my mind in regards to seeking small damages. Alot of the people who get wronged aren’t seeking for a huge settlement, they just want justice. A couple thousand is a big deal to most people, and if you just get compensated, that may be enough to feel you’ve seen justice. $15k is a far sight better than getting an arrest record, mugshots, fingerprints, fines, and bruises to go along with jail time, attorney fees, etc, and then not getting a penny for your trouble.

Cops need to get in the habit of making sure they’re really, really right before making an arrest. The price of injustice is too high. I know they say they have to make “split-second” decisions, but in reality they usually spend 10-30 minutes harrassing someone before they actually take them in on an arrest. That’s plenty of time to make a “justice check” to make sure they are actually arresting criminals.

Johnny Law: what’s your problem?

Unless the prosecution really screws this up…and assuming the video evidence shows what has been described…I don’t see how the plaintiff can lose this case.

IMHO, the officers involved made several poor decisions that night. Though they may not have been aware of it, they did misquote the law regarding video/audio recordings. No one should ever be arrested for simply questioning an officer or failing to provide a level of respect that the officer wishes to receive. The arrest of an individual should never be conditional on the actions or cooperation of a third party.

In any line of work, you should never allow your emotions to make decisions for you. I believe, more often than not, this is what leads to unlawful arrests. It is not right to arrest someone just because you don’t like them and that’s often what these situations boil down to.

Boynton Beach is in Palm Beach County, the
Glory Hogs who brought us COPS.
I’m surprised they even allow ACLU down there.
I went down to Boca, to pick up my illegally
confiscated belongings, and never so many bored cops sitting around waiting to bust someone.
It’s all money-driven. More arrests, more money
for courts, cops, lawyers, probation…
Very sad place.

Is she suing the cops or the police department? Unless the cops are held personally liable for their abuses, we’re not going to see any change.

Hey Carlos, just wanted to say this is a great site, just stumbled across it a few days ago, lots of good stuff.

Anyway, I would love to see this video but like Michaelk42 said, it’ll probably never see the light of day due to the settlement that the City is sure to offer Ms Ford to protect their own.

Mark and artemis have it correct.

Hey, Johnny…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I30iBJsKqdM

artemis,

I agree that holding the police personally liable would be the best way to see change, but the courts are unlikely to do it unless it is a really egregious abuse (like in a case earlier this year where the 10th Circut Federal Court of Appeals held an officer personally liable where he illegally arrested a woman because her husband violated a restraining order, and the cop claimed that because it applied to him it also applied to her in clear violation of the restraining order that he was holding in his hand at the time of arrest).

There are other ways to attack those cops too. Ultimately, exposure of these actions and the personal humiliation that the officers face can be just as bad as money they’re forced to pay. You can blanket the neighborhood with signs naming the individual cops and what they did. A radio personality who exposes these people to ridicule can make their lives a living hell – all perfectly legally. You can buy airtime or a large highway sign exposing them. You can run advertisements in the newspapers detailing their illegal actions. If sheriffs are locally elected officials, you can force them to go on the record about the illegal actions of their officers and post the videos on youtube.

And, in an extreme case, you can run a blog about individual officers or the department if it’s bad enough. Cops hate the publicity of their actions (which is why they come down so hard on cameramen in the first place). There are other ways to win outside of a court.

Good I hope she gets every red cent.

I’m glad to see she and her son were not punched, gassed, clubbed, electrocuted, or shot by the police thugs.

Johnny Law // Jul 16, 2010 at 3:01 AM

I can’t wait to see what RAIL CAR FAN has to say about this but we already know!

“The police can’t do anything right!”

and

“They should all be fired!”

and OF COURSE

“I have no idea what I am talking about but I always offer an opinion anyways!!”

Don’t forget:

“I am fixated on Johnny because I think he is a true hero! Deep down I really admire cops but I can’t admit it so I get on here and rant!!”

Isn’t that right “RAIL CAR”!?!?

*************************************

First off, let’s make one thing perfectly clear. I don’t hate you.. nor do I dislike you (per say).

What I do hate/dislike is those of you who wear a “Shield” that lie and abuse your limited power that goes with it, make up bogus charges and arrest people on them, etc., etc., etc.

“JL”.. I would have written earlier on the above situation as posted by Carlos, but I was giving you the opportunity to either say something.. or keep quiet.

If you notice, “JL”, you did NOT comment on what the situation was.. but rather went “off on a tangent” by posting about me, which is fine as far as I’m concerned. Say anything you want about me.. it won’t hurt a bit.

Your comments about me are the same actions that politicians make/do when they have nothing substantial to say when asked a specific question that they don’t want to answer.

In this case, “YOU”, could have said something along the lines of: “Well I agree that the three Cops stepped out of line.. and there was NO reason for them to take the action(s) that they did (or something along those lines), but you didn’t.

As I have said to you in the past: “your attitude through you comments (or lack there of), only leads one to believe you’re indirectly saying ‘Cops can do NO wrong’!”.. and your non-comment about the above model/son situation seems to show it.

If I’m wrong I’ll be the first one to say so, but there are others here who think the same way I do.

Rail Car Fan

Rail,

Do you even read your previous posts? You love to immediately post ridiculous comments about how “Johnny Law says the cops can do no wrong!” and other nutty babble. I’ve never said that and I have made mention on several stories that I think the cops were in the wrong.

However you, on the other hand, thinks that cops can do no right. It obviously bothers you greatly when someone disagrees with you. I’m sorry to come here into your little echo chamber and mess things up by pointing out another point of view.

The funny thing is that you never have anything to actually contribute. Your comments are always some variation of “Yeah me too!” and are a waste of space. Instead of yelling about something that I might post, why do you try to actually debate a point that I do post? It would be a nice change of pace for you.

@Johnny

Your first post to this thread is a troll aimed at RCF and then you accuse him of never contributing?

What a joke.
Michaelk42 recently posted..Unsurprisingly- Pogan gets no real punishment

If things keep going this direction, cops will be busting into people’s homes if the cops see someone shooting video out of a window of their own property. Wait and see. It will happen.

Come on guys, you should know better, it’s “damages in excess of $15,000″ which makes the case a circuit court case rather than a county court case.
The Straw Buyer recently posted..Conflicting witness statements- some Miranda law stuff and a new board game

Theft, false imprisonment, dereliction of duty, who knows what else under color of law. Are there any good cops or judges? I always believed there is an exception to every rule, but now I think this is the exception to THAT rule.
Spunky recently posted..Deep Secrets in Todays Society

I think it should have been a 6-figure lawsuit—jail is HORRIBLE! Even if the charges were dropped, that experience will never go away and those crooked cops will go on thinking they’re above everyone else.