TSA Considering Banning Photography Of Checkpoints
The Transportation Security Administration is considering changing its policy on photographing security checkpoints after several videos depicting questionable incidents between passengers and TSA screeners were posted on Youtube.
News of the possible changes in policy was posted Friday on the TSA Blog, the same blog that posted that it is permissible to photograph checkpoints, even though most screeners act as if it has always been illegal.
The reason it is considering changing its policy stems from a Youtube video that was recorded in Phoenix when a woman opted-out of the metal detectors and chose to get patted down by a TSA screener.
The woman began yelling hysterically that she had been molested by the screener.
Meanwhile, the woman’s son was recording the incident and continued to do so, even though several TSA screeners told him he was breaking the law.
It is impossible to tell whether the woman was molested in the video, but it’s clear that the TSA screeners were creating their own laws in dealing with the videographer - as they’ve done so many times before.
This is what the TSA had to say about the incident:
You may have seen the video of a woman at Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport who was upset about her screening experience.
TSA takes all allegations of improper screening seriously and investigates each claim to the fullest. After reviewing this passenger’s time at the checkpoint, we found that our security officers acted properly and neither the CCTV footage nor this YouTube video support any of the allegations levied. Real violations of our protocols are worth every ounce of our energy to investigate, but this alleged incident does not meet that threshold.
This incident has also raised many questions about whether or not passengers can film at checkpoints. This topic is currently under review, but you can read this blog post on our current policy for photography at checkpoints.
It doesn’t make sense to ban people from videotaping checkpoints just because a woman began yelling that she had been molested. If anything, more video cameras can provide more sides of the truth.
The real issue here is that TSA has made absolutely no effort to train its screeners on the current photography policy judging from my personal experiences as well many other embarrassing videos on Youtube.
And they probably find it easier to rewrite the policy to what the screeners already believe than make an attempt to educate them.
Whatever their reasons, it has nothing to do with keeping up safe from terrorists.
UPDATE: Mickey H. Osterreicher, attorney for the National Press Photographers Association, just sent an awesome letter to Janet Napolitano, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, regarding this matter.
UPDATE II: The TSA updated its blog after this post was published to include the following paragraph:
***Update: 6/9/2011 - There have been many many different interpretations of the photography portion of this post, so I wanted to clarify things a bit. We recognize that using video and photography equipment is a constitutionally protected activity unless it interferes with the screening process at our checkpoints. While our current policy remains the same, TSA is reviewing our guidance to officers at the checkpoint to ensure consistent application. Our goal is to protect passenger’s rights, while safeguarding the integrity of the security process. ***
So does this mean that they are going to start training TSA screeners that photography is allowed?
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Comments
"TSA takes all allegations of improper screening seriously...but this alleged incident does not meet that threshold."
And to ensure that proper screening takes place we will now make it a crime to have any sort of checks and balances. There! We fixed that for ya.
Why does the TSA do things like this? They hate our freedoms.
"TSA takes all allegations of improper screening seriously...but this alleged incident does not meet that threshold."
... And who decided that ...
Oh, the TSA
EXACTLY!!!!
EXACTLY!!!!
You want to stop the TSA Nazis? Here is what to do.
If every passenger at the security check point refuses to go through the X Ray and refuse the pat down then you will have change. It would take 2/3 of the passengers to do this. It should be orchestrated in several airports around the country. Once this takes place, the plane will be sitting on the ground and miss it's departure. Hit them where it hurts, right in the pocket book. When their planes sit there, they loose revenue. Pressure from the airlines to the TSA Nazis will cause them to rethink their so called pat downs. And let's not forget your rights. They will try to tell you that you approved to be patted down when you purchased your ticket. NOT!Fight back. Don't give them the time of the day. Warn them, that you will sue them if they touch you. By the way, were is the ACLU? I thought they were all about civil liberties. I guess they choose which law suits they will take. Well, good luck, and remember you have the power right in your own hands. If you continue to allow them to do this, then there isn't any hope.
How is a bunch of idiots missing their flight going to change things? It would actually save the airlines money because they would use less fuel and the seats are already paid for.
I don't like the way Mcdonalds operates so I'm going to go in there and buy a bunch of burgers and not eat them, that will show them.
How is a bunch of idiots missing their flight going to change things? It would actually save the airlines money because they would use less fuel and the seats are already paid for.
I don't like the way Mcdonalds operates so I'm going to go in there and buy a bunch of burgers and not eat them, that will show them.
EXACTLY!
Great Comment. Hit them where it hurts...the pocket. I always say DO NOT COMPLY TO HARM, or in this matter Participate. They cannot "consensually" do these things without our consent. So don't consent.
ACLU...a joke. It's just another front, to give you the sense someone is looking after your best interest. No one is going to stick-up for you, we all have to fight our own battles individually and together.
BTW, Sammy...go back to sleep.
Happy Tinfoil Cat said in part..
"TSA takes all allegations of improper screening seriously..."
Yeah.. Right! And I've got some Phoenix AZ downtown Atlantic Ocean beach front property that I'll sell you real cheap!!
You're either too delusional to know what's really happens.. or you work for the T(hieves) S(tealing) A(nything).
Which is it..!!..?
For the past few years now, polls have consistently shown that the employees of the T(housands) S(tanding) A(round) are the MOST HATED government agency we have.. and are hated worse than the IRS.
Rail Car Fan
Your an idiot Rail Car Fan. He was just quoting from the article. Maybe you should have read it instead of wasting time thinking up stupid acronyms.
POLICE CAN DO NO WRONG!
Airlines should just stop using the TSA and go back to the private sector... The TSA makes up their policies on a daily basis, and always has (I used to be a TSA screener back when it was first formed). I've seen first hand just how retarded the bureaucrats can be, as 99.99% of the time they don't know ANYTHING about security.
If you want to stop a "terrorist" or a potential threat at an airport, there is only 1 way to do it effectively, and that is the same way the Israeli security forces are doing it. Janet Napoli-ta-ah-ah-ah-ano doesn't have the slightest clue about security though, and as long as she's in charge, nothing will change for the better.
At least with the TSA, there is uniform stupidity across all checkpoints. Can you imagine the chaos that private sector security would bring to the airports? By far, the worst humans beings on earth are rent-a-cops. Anyone want to back me up on this? They know nothing of the law and personal rights, but they carry a weapon and act as if they are the mayor of wherever you are.
Private sector airport security has never carried weapons. I hate rent-a-cops too, but we don't need the government in our airports. They already probe every other part of our lives, might as well let them grab our junk and give it a jiggle too... Not my cup of tea, thanks...
I remember pre 9/11 when private airport security handled the checkpoints, and at my home airport they did a damn good job. Give me paid security instead.
"To prevent further incidents, all pat-downs will be performed in dark secret rooms where no one an hear you scream...."
The sad part is that they don't think the problem is that they did something wrong and made the woman scream and feel molested. They think the problem is that someone recorded it.
Looks like your little plan backfired. Keep abusing your cameras, your doing yourselves a real disservice.
It's like the kid who abuses his car privileges, what do you do, you take the car away. I'm not a fan of the TSA but I think they hit a home run on this one.
So let me see if I have this right.
We use our cameras in a perfectly legal way that you somehow equate to abuse.
Then you applaud the authorities for then removing the right because using the cameras have caught numerous incidences of illegal and downright disgusting acts.
You are so right, lets ban cameras, then we can no longer see the rape and molestation of our rights on a daily basis.
Ignorance is bliss for you I guess.
By abusing I mean setting up these phony, scripted, choreographed scenes to try to create news.
Okay... But more filming will just prove what really happens. Just because someone (may) create a false scene to create news has nothing to do with allowing filming of TSA checkpoints.
If Tim J weren't allowed to post here, we wouldn't have such controversy. just like the TSA policy, NO FILMING, NO CONTROVERSY.
(think about it tim)
TSA Tim, What makes you think the woman didn't get touched in appropriately? Who made you omnipotent? Wouldn't more cameras only show what really happened? If I was accused of sexual assault and I was innocent, I would want cameras to have recorded the incident from as many points of view as possible.
Your analogy fails, the equivalent would be kid abuses car privileges - government takes keys away from everyone in the country.
If the government makes us fear losing our rights for exercising our rights, do we really have them? The TSA 'investigates' itself and comes to the conclusion you'd expect. They claim to investigate 'ALL' incidents but this one is considered too preposterous to even consider investigating. This is how TSA officers get away with stealing money, jewelry, property from travelers for years, never being held accountable. It's people like you, Tim, that keep this scum unaccountable.
"Can you imagine the chaos that private sector security would bring to the airports?"
Do you mean all of the chaos that DIDN'T exist between say 1950 and 2001 before the TSA existed? Are you even old enough to remember the good old days when you didn't have to take off your shoes, get a pat down, throw away your nail clippers and shampoo bottles? Is that the chaos of which you speak?
Those are government regulations that private security companies would have to follow too if they were doing the screenings. Pre 2001, those regulations didn't exist. Don't confuse your dislike of policy with abuse of power. Independent private security companies would make the abuse of power even worse by having inconsistent internal procedures and, possibly, poorly trained staff. Honestly, have you ever interacted with a rent-a-cop?
Me eating a sandwich on a bus stop bench outside my local library.
Rent-a-cop: "I'm sorry sir. I can't let you eat that here."
Me: "This is a public sidewalk."
Rent-a-cop: "Yes, but it is in front of the library and the library doesn't allow food.
Me: "Please go away."
Rent-a-cop: "Don't make me pepper spray you."
(20 min argument ensues)
Rent-a-cop: "You're lucky it's now my lunch break."
(He walks inside and eats his lunch in the library.)
...
Should have called the cops instead of arguing. Threats of pepper spray is assault in my book. Press charges FTW.
Yeah, that's it, outlaw photography. Call it a "Security Measure"...since the TSA can be SAFER no one will capture their abuse on camera.
I like the way fly-by-night gov't agencies
can spontaneously bypass the 1st Amendment...just to
cover their own asses.
Carlos you might be giving the TSA a little too much credit in saying that the screeners haven't been "trained" to know photography is legal. It would be just too easy for them to simply have an informal policy of discouraging recording at their checkpoints, regardless of the publically-stated policies. They can use dishonest tactics all they want including stating that it is illegal, because the screeners and their superiors know they will never suffer any punishment for saying or doing so. And when the screeners call the cops, they know the cops will always back up their word and never a traveller.
I'll bet the TSA has no intention of removing its own security cameras. They have no problem photographing us, but heaven forbid we should be able to photograph them and hold them accountable for their actions.
If you don't like it don't fly.
That line is not only tired but laughably ignorant of our transportation infrastructure and laws. Air travel is the only viable means of travel over 500 miles in a reasonable amount of time for a county as large as the US. To say nothing of travel to Hawaii, Alaska, and Puerto Rico.
Air travel is a right by federal law, US code section 40103 "A citizen of the United States has a public right of transit through the navigable airspace." Note there is also the Commerce Clause (Article 1 Section 8 Clause 3). With regard to the TSA actions I would point you to the Fourth Amendment and potentially (if they attempt to ban photography) the First Amendment. In addition to various state criminal statutes for misdemeanor sexual assault.
Right, I'll just take a train. Oh wait, the terminal turkeys from the airport are on the trains now. Guess I'll drive. Oh wait, they've already run checkpoints for commercial trucks, guess I'll just walk. Oh wait, that's a form of transportation too.
You don't like that we have rights? Don't work for rights-infringers.
what are they gonna do at the train station when they realize you can take your gun on a train with you
No, thanks. I'd prefer that the TSA simply be accountable for their actions. After all, if they aren't doing anything wrong, they won't mind being recorded, right? That's the line the cops (aka thugs with badges) spout when they ask to search your car: "Surely you won't mind if I search if you have nothing to hide, right?"
Why is it acceptable for Big Brother to have their cameras everywhere, but not for the general public. If everyone had camera phones back in 2001, we'd have a lot more video footage of 9/11 instead of relying on the information we're given. Unless there's an expectation of privacy, more UNBIASED cameras can only help assert the facts.
TSA needs to instruct their employees on proper protocol, and we need to keep exercising our rights to keep them protected.
Are you kidding me? The 9/11 attacks are among the most photographed and recorded incidents in history. There were hundreds if not thousands of cameras recording that day.
But apparently only one was aimed at the Pentagon and rolling for 8 frames.
That's what I was referring to.
There are far more people (and camera's) in Manhattan then outside one corner of the Pentagon. Seriously this conspiracy stuff is getting old.
The building that is considered to be the "most secure building in the world" didn't have cameras capturing any activity from all angles?
Seriously, The little convenience store down on the corner has better security than what the pentagon had on 9/11.
And putting aside all "conspiracy theories".. Don't you think it really strange that US military officers that should have been court marshalled for at the very least dereliction of duty were instead promoted?
My argument wasn't to talk about conspiracy theories. My argument was plainly stating the fact that additional cameras would have been advantageous. I'm not for a government driven national security camera on every corner situation, but I think that the power of the people, each holding their own camera phone has more pros than cons.
I completely agree.
The TSA is actually lucky that the public is content to shoot them on camera at the moment. Much more of their fondling and sexual abuse and the public will start shooting them with something else.
If spent my days feeling testes and spreading vulva's and inspecting breast to insure that they are not hiding bomb making chemicals .............. the last thing I would want it someone taking pictures.
Seems reasonable to me................... but I don't do those aforementioned actions!!!!!!!!!
Film them every chance you get, post on youtube,
SHAME THEM!!!!!!!!!!! you don't know it may wake a few of them up with SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!
Sheila
www.placeofrefuge2012.com
Complaining to those without shame is pointless, complain to the people who will lose there jobs in the next election if they refuse to stand up and defend the constitution. write your senators and representatives. Tell your state reps to ban the TSA let them go on ahead and ban flights to a whole state for nude cameras, lets see how quickly they fold.
I just updated this story with a letter that from the NPPA attorney to Janet Napolitano. Check it out. It's a great letter.
Of course the TSA is considering a ban on camera's. They currently violate the Fourth Amendment with no consequence. subjecting passengers to radiation doesn't seem to warrant any concern from congress or the president. How about committing misdemeanor sexual assault on a daily basis. Nope, nothing but silence from the state DA's and police departments. This agency is completely above the law so why not add violating the First Amendment too an already impressive criminal rap sheet.
The TSA is currently violating the fourth amendment, so there is no reason they wouldn't want to try and violate the first amendment as well.
Photography in publicly accessible locations has been upheld as being legal by the US Supreme Court on numerous occasions.
Carlos,
We updated our post a couple of hours ago with a clarification: http://bit.ly/lf4otB
***Update: 6/9/2011 - There have been many many different interpretations of the photography portion of this post, so I wanted to clarify things a bit. We recognize that using video and photography equipment is a constitutionally protected activity unless it interferes with the screening process at our checkpoints. While our current policy remains the same, TSA is reviewing our guidance to officers at the checkpoint to ensure consistent application. Our goal is to protect passenger’s rights, while safeguarding the integrity of the security process. ***
Thanks,
Blogger Bob
TSA Blog Team
Thanks, Bob.
With respect Bob, it is constitutionally protected unless they attempt to film the secure displays or other confidential information. To say that it is protected "unless it interferes with the screening process" leads down the dark road where the term interference is subjective and open to interpretation. One screener could take interference to mean "I cant do my job because I don't know what that camera is looking at". Please Bob lets just keep this to rational rules with quantifiable metrics and guidelines.
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