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How much should you charge for a photograph?TSA Screeners Once Again Prove Ignorance Over Checkpoint Photo Policy
Transportation Security Administration screeners once again proved they are ignorant of the TSA policy that allows passengers to videotape the checkpoint process.
And it is getting tiresome considering the TSA recently reiterated this right.
The latest incident took place in Baltimore. The videotape was uploaded on July 10.
The action starts at 1:24 when a woman is videotaping the checkpoint process, waiting for her husband to walk through.
A TSA supervisor confronts her, telling her she is not allowed to videotape the checkpoint.
But she continues to videotape, asking him for a document that confirms it is not allowed.
He tells her he doesn’t have the time to show her, but will gladly call police and then have her removed from the airport.
At 3:16 in the video, a second TSA screener storms up and tells her to stop videotaping, but she continues to do so.
That, of course, is not true.
When her husband finally makes it through the checkpoint, a TSA screener then demands his boarding pass and identification to make a report because he had asked if his penis would be groped in a pat-down.
“The questions you were asking, I found particularly disturbing,” the TSA screener tells him.
But not nearly as disturbing as them abusing their power as TSA screeners.
Comments
Carlos,
On my mobile phone, I still go to your Word Press site. Can you fix that?
Second,
The TSA has no business in arresting people that don't answer their questions. They are not "officers", and have no power of arrest other than doing a citizen's arrest. If they did, odds are they would have arrest your wife.
I love how at 2:10 the supervisor says that he doesn't have time to deal with the woman and her filming because he is "tied up" with someone else at the checkpoint, yet he ends up spending over a minute with her. It shows you where his true priorities lie: not in helping passengers quickly get through the checkpoint, but in harassing passengers who are not doing anything illegal. It is the supervisor himself who is now interfering with the screening process of the other passenger with whom he was dealing.
I am absolutely sickened watching this video.
Carlos, keep up the good work. How do you find out about a lot of these incidents? Do you search YouTube for "TSA photography", etc, or do the original posters contact you?
Also, how do you know this is at BWI?
I've never been able to find out one way or another whether citizen's arrest exists at the federal level.
A TSA screener, while not law enforcement, is employed by the government, and therefore 18USC242 would apply to them. Threatening someone with a false arrest for exercising a Constitutional right certainly falls under the law.
I'd love to see a citizen turn around one of these days and inform the TSA goon that he's under citizen's arrest for violating federal law.
I have to learn not to visit your site before I take my morning blood-pressure reading.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLL
WHAT THIS EXPOSES, TOTALLY-IS THAT TSA AND HOMELAND DEFENSE AND THE FECKLESS WINKIES AND ASSORTED WINGED MONKEYS-ARE STILL FIGMENTS OF PLAY SECURITY FROM OZ! I WAS A PRODUCT OF THE SMALL SECURITY AGENCIES THAT USED TO OUTSOURCE CONTRACT THESE FACILITIES AND CONTRACTS-AND THE BIG CONTRACTS STILL RECRUIT THE SELF-SAME MORON TYPE GUARDS THAT HAVE BOUNCED AROUND FOR YEARS.THE MANAGEMENTS THAT ARE BEHOLDING TO THE AIRLINES-DO EVERYTHING STRICTLY BOTTOM-RUNG, ON THE CHEAP-AND ARE LOOKING FOR A SLIME-SKIN OF MONEY THEY CAN GRAFT AND SLIM OFF TO THEIR OWN POCKETS. THE BIG SCAN MACHINES ARE HUGE, WORTHLESS CONTRACT MONEY MACHINES-COSTLY, IMMOBILE, AND NON-FLEXIBLE. THE ROTATION FACTOR ( MAKING JOBS HIGH TENSION AND SHORT-LIVED)ASSURES CONFRONTATIVE METHODS MUST BE USED TO TRY TO BRIDGE GLARING GAPS IN SECURITY. HEY-THIS AIN'T MY OPINE HERE-I WATCHED THE RECENT COMMITTEE HEARINGS BETWEEN THE TSA AND HOMELAND SECURITY ON THE CNN NEWS CHANNEL. WHAT FIREWORKS LIT BY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO THEME ABOUT PERIMITER SECURITY-BUT IT ALL FUNNELED TO QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE BIG CONTRACTED MACHINES ON CONCOURSES, LACK OF INCIDENT DOCUMENTATIONS (WHICH HOMELAND SECURITY IS SO CLAIMING ARE RESTRICTED INFORMATION-HAHAHA! JUST SLOPPY RECORDS AND LAZY FOLLOW-UPS!)AND WHEN IT CAME TO CARGO DEPOT CONJOINING SECURITY ACCESS TO TARMACS-IT BECAME A STUTTERING TAP-DANCE OF STUPIDITY AND SHAME!. THE TSA BUS CHIEF DID GIVE A COMPELLING PRESENTATION OF K-9 UTILIZATION AND FLEXIBLE USE-BUT A FACT GLOSSED OVER IS THIS---"THEY REQUIRE BREAKS EVERY COUPLE HOURS FOR REST AND EFFICIENCY! DO THE SLAVE-LABOR GUARDS AT THE "SCANZILLA" MACHINES GET THE SAME CONSIDERATION? IN PRACTICE-WE THINK N-O-T! HAVE HEARD OF STRANDED SCANNERS TRAPPED AT A POST FOR EXTRA HOURS ON END-WITHOUT BREAKS OR RELIEFS-CALLING IN DESPERATION, YEP-TO SMALL OUTSIDE OUTSOURCED AGENCIES! IT IS A JOKE-A TRAGIC AND PATHETIC JOKE-RUN UNDER THE GUISE OF AUTHORITATIVE SUPERVISING AGENCIES! NOW YOU KNOW THE REAL PROBLEMS, FOLKS!
WHAT THIS EXPOSES, TOTALLY-IS THAT TSA AND HOMELAND DEFENSE AND THE FECKLESS WINKIES AND ASSORTED WINGED MONKEYS-ARE STILL FIGMENTS OF PLAY SECURITY FROM OZ! I WAS A PRODUCT OF THE SMALL SECURITY AGENCIES THAT USED TO OUTSOURCE CONTRACT THESE FACILITIES AND CONTRACTS-AND THE BIG CONTRACTS STILL RECRUIT THE SELF-SAME MORON TYPE GUARDS THAT HAVE BOUNCED AROUND FOR YEARS.THE MANAGEMENTS THAT ARE BEHOLDING TO THE AIRLINES-DO EVERYTHING STRICTLY BOTTOM-RUNG, ON THE CHEAP-AND ARE LOOKING FOR A SLIME-SKIN OF MONEY THEY CAN GRAFT AND SLIM OFF TO THEIR OWN POCKETS. THE BIG SCAN MACHINES ARE HUGE, WORTHLESS CONTRACT MONEY MACHINES-COSTLY, IMMOBILE, AND NON-FLEXIBLE. THE ROTATION FACTOR ( MAKING JOBS HIGH TENSION AND SHORT-LIVED)ASSURES CONFRONTATIVE METHODS MUST BE USED TO TRY TO BRIDGE GLARING GAPS IN SECURITY. HEY-THIS AIN'T MY OPINE HERE-I WATCHED THE RECENT COMMITTEE HEARINGS BETWEEN THE TSA AND HOMELAND SECURITY ON THE CNN NEWS CHANNEL. WHAT FIREWORKS LIT BY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO THEME ABOUT PERIMITER SECURITY-BUT IT ALL FUNNELED TO QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE BIG CONTRACTED MACHINES ON CONCOURSES, LACK OF INCIDENT DOCUMENTATIONS (WHICH HOMELAND SECURITY IS SO CLAIMING ARE RESTRICTED INFORMATION-HAHAHA! JUST SLOPPY RECORDS AND LAZY FOLLOW-UPS!)AND WHEN IT CAME TO CARGO DEPOT CONJOINING SECURITY ACCESS TO TARMACS-IT BECAME A STUTTERING TAP-DANCE OF STUPIDITY AND SHAME!. THE TSA BUS CHIEF DID GIVE A COMPELLING PRESENTATION OF K-9 UTILIZATION AND FLEXIBLE USE-BUT A FACT GLOSSED OVER IS THIS---"THEY REQUIRE BREAKS EVERY COUPLE HOURS FOR REST AND EFFICIENCY! DO THE SLAVE-LABOR GUARDS AT THE "SCANZILLA" MACHINES GET THE SAME CONSIDERATION? IN PRACTICE-WE THINK N-O-T! HAVE HEARD OF STRANDED SCANNERS TRAPPED AT A POST FOR EXTRA HOURS ON END-WITHOUT BREAKS OR RELIEFS-CALLING IN DESPERATION, YEP-TO SMALL OUTSIDE OUTSOURCED AGENCIES! IT IS A JOKE-A TRAGIC AND PATHETIC JOKE-RUN UNDER THE GUISE OF AUTHORITATIVE SUPERVISING AGENCIES! NOW YOU KNOW THE REAL PROBLEMS, FOLKS!
"The man being frustrated at this point demanded to know my plans with the video, of which I didn't respond. Repeatedly he asked me to delete the video, hoping his mere presence could intimidate me to obey, but I refused."
From another incident last November,
http://www.examiner.com/family-in-seattle/traveler-intimidated-by-tsa-ag...
...the TSA gropes a kid in a creepy manner and then wants the videographer to take the blame for what happened.
Classic. Like the molester blaming the news coverage
for his crime.
Unfortunately, Baltimore (BWI) airport does have specific signs prohibiting photography at checkpoints. These are not TSA signs, but state government signs. The legality of these signs and the specific rules/law cited is questionable though. Especially since COMAR 11 03.01.09 B (2) doesn't mention anything about photography.
NOTICE
Photographing or videotaping of security procedures, personnel or equipment is strictly prohibited.
COMAR 11 03.01.09 B (2)
Actually, these signs at BWI have apparently been removed --
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16646329-post393.html
once again...
http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2011-07-03_6218469021342645/movie_stars/mu...
The hilarious irony here is that the TSA's "badges" are iron on patches... ROFL
So if I moan erotically when the TSA pervert gropes my junk I'll get a report filed on me? Hilarious!
Seems to me if you don't like the rules you can simply choose not to fly.
Seems to me that all you can do is parrot a much-repeated piece of nonsense instead of coming up with some original responses.
I suppose that next you will tell us that flying is a privilege, not a right.
Nice try.
Seems to me the 4th Amendment prohibits this kind of thing. If you don't want to support our Constitution you are free to leave the country.
And of course Rosa Parks didn't have to take the bus. She could have walked, right?
While this isn't about racism, it is about questioning the government when they choose to act in a manner that violates your rights. And yes, flying has explicitly been defined as a right in Federal law.
What rules? It's not illegal to shoot photos or video at a TSA checkpoint. The TSA's own website says so.
Bart talks like a Clover:
Conversations With a Clover - http://epautos.com/2011/07/01/conversations-with-a-clover/
@Cameron:
driving is also a right, there would be many to argue, but they would be wrong.
if one chooses to go 100miles down the road, his freedom is taking away if the STATE for whatever reason chooses to not give the "right" to drive.
its total nonsense.
but like so many other things, it has been taken away with so many lies, and in so many years, the LIES now seem to be the truth!
i say no matter how many years pass, a lie is a lie, and remains so.....forever!
would you post this video on youtube please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBAIAEUdGTM&feature=player_embedded
there ya go, you may have to copy and paste, but it should work
Wonder what TSA would do if you opted for the pat down and begged for a 2nd helping after they finished the 1st one?
I'm reading this from a 26 hour Amtrak ride with my 2 daughters taken specifically to avoid the TSA. Thanks for a great video. If it were just me, I would definitely arrive at the airport hours early with all kinds of TSA documentation and pertinent state laws printed out and ready to go and call a police officer on my own if they pulled the stuff they pulled on you. But I just can't take a chance of either of my daughters being selected for a scanner or patdown. This is just sad that our country has come to this.
I'm with you on the Obama remark also. I thought he was supposed to be a Constitutional scholar?
yes, that he may be, as it were.
he knows just enough about the u.s.constitution to keep in trouble.
if he believed in the document [and the LAW of the land], he would go by it, instead of this crap!
hal, go hang out at the blaze or the bigs. Your teatard wisdom will fit in better in stupidville.
Hmpf. A lawn jockey has more knowledge of Constitutional law than Obama.
I watched the video.
This guy and his wife are a couple of putzes.
No one is PREVENTING their interstate travel.
They have no inherent RIGHT to travel by aircraft.
They are more then welcome to walk, run, hop, skip, jump, skate, ride a skateboard, unicycle, bicycle, mo-ped, scooter, motorcycle, horse, donkey, camel, cow, elephant, drive a car, van, SUV, crossover, truck, bus, ride in a taxi, bus, rickshaw, or use a train or boat.
Failing that they could always charter a private aircraft flying to and from a private airfield or simply learn to fly and buy or rent an aircraft and fly to their hearts content.
And they can play all of the word and legal games they want, but it is NEVER allowed to video or photograph the operations of ANY security check point. They can say they “were not interfering” with the operation of the checkpoint, but the instant they distracted TSA personnel from doing their job and caused them concern due to their behavior and demeanor, they – in fact – had “interfered” with the operation of the security check point. People like this are the bane of our population and sooner or later, their childish behavior is going to costs someone their life.
Grow the eff up and go find another way to get your fifteen minutes of fame and means to impress all of your ignorant friends.
Idiots.
You're either a troll, work for the TSA, or are representative of the large share of Americans these days who are completely ignorant of their Constitutionally-protected rights.
Where to start?
>> No one is PREVENTING their interstate travel.
Really? The TSA agent at the end is detaining the husband while he copies down his information. Why is he detaining him? Because he used the word "penis" in a question to the screener. The horror!
>> They have no inherent RIGHT to travel by aircraft.
WRONG!
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/49/VII/A/I/401/40103
49 U.S.C. § 40103 : US Code - Section 40103
(2) A citizen of the United States has a public right of transit
through the navigable airspace.
>> but it is NEVER allowed to video or photograph
>> the operations of ANY security check point.
Wrong again.
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/taking_pictures.shtm
TSA does not prohibit the public, passengers or press from photographing, videotaping or filming at security checkpoints, as long as the screening process is not interfered with or slowed down.
The only reason the TSOs changed their demeanor was because they failed to realize that filming was fully allowed. So by not knowing the rules, *they* are the ones who slowed down the process and interfered with the other passengers' screening. That supervisor spent well over a minute with the passenger's wife trying to get her to stop filming, repeatedly saying he did not have the time to show her the rules because he had another passenger to deal with. So who's the one slowing down the screening here?
If a TSO is so easily distracted by a photographer holding a camera 25 feet away, is that really someone you want safeguarding our airports and planes?
>> Grow the eff up and go find another way to get
>> your fifteen minutes of fame and means to impress all of your ignorant friends.
Go grow some balls and not be a shill for the government. Some independent thinking can do wonders for the soul.
Yep, the place is becoming infested with trolls. At least this one hasn't claimed to be another cop. Yet.
Clockwise. Ironic handle since it neither displays the intelligence to read a clock or know what one is. Other than an ornament to be worn around one's neck of course. And "wise" ain't even close to it's wheelhouse.
So asking the TSA if they're going to touch your penis is disturbing, but the TSA actually touching people's penises is supposed to be acceptable?
If I was the guy who made that video, my answer to that TSA supervisor who found the questions disturbing would have been:
What's disturbing is that you look at and fondle penises all day long.
"So asking the TSA if they're going to touch your penis is disturbing, but the TSA actually touching people's penises is supposed to be acceptable?"
These gov't goons are in a state of zombiedom
and the word startles them from their denial/slumber.
Imagine asking guards about Zyklon gas as you were
marched to the "showers" in 1940's Germany--you'd
be shot.
The reason that the signs were taken down at BWI was that MdTA got busted on this last month, for the second time.
Apparently they finally got the message. You can film TSA from anywhere and ask for a police officer if they try to stop you.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-mta-photography...
The reason that the signs were taken down at BWI was that MdTA got busted on this last month, for the second time.
Apparently they finally got the message. You can film TSA from anywhere and ask for a police officer if they try to stop you.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-mta-photography...
Ben, thank you for the video - the more people who record the sooner we can end the TSA disaster. A senator recently had a bomb sniffing dog brought into Congress to demonstate how much better a solution that would be than the expensive, intrusive scanners. The scanners are a product of political corruption, they have nothing to do with security. Michael Chertoff, who was the second Secretary of Homeland Security, began using them after he invested in Rapiscans. Rapiscans subsequently received a $25 millionn dollar contract with TSA. Mr. Chertoff presently represents one of the two companies licensed to sell the scanners to TSA.
TheY used scanners in Iraq until they discovered that dogs were much more effective. The FBI uses dogs for their security, not scanners. A full body scanner costs $150,000 while a dog costs $8,000.
Type in Terror Fighting Dogs on youtube, and you will see a National Geographic video of Suminov dogs sniffing a Moscow airport and finding a bomb chemical oomponent smaller that a grain of sand in a backpack in a crowd of hundreds of people and many articles of luggage. We don't need scanners or grope thugs. I have sent faxes to all my reps on this. The scanners and grope thugs are simply a psy op program against the American people. I was on a site yesterday where someone posted that the TSA slogan, which is displayed on the wall of the main admin building, is INTIMIDATE, DOMINATE, CONTROL.
Enjoyed the video. Here is my solution.
Everyone at the gate refuse to be XRayed and the pat down. IF this could be done, and done at several airports around the country, you'll get someones attention in the airlines.
This is clearly a direct violation of your rights. What next? Jesse Venture has filed a law suit against the TSA and that Janet Man . I hope he wins. And were is the ACLU? I thought they are all about civil liberties. I guess they are worried that their funding would stop.
People, STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS. Don't allow them to do this.
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