United Threatens To Place Woman On No-Fly List For Taking Photo Of Name Tag

Less than a month after a woman was escorted off a US Airways flight for snapping a photo of an employee nametag, a United Airlines employee threatened to place a woman on the “no-fly” list for doing the same thing.

The passenger named Helen said she was recently checking in her bags at Houston's international airport for a flight to Costa Rica when she became annoyed at the inept service.

She used her cell phone to snap a photo of an employee’s nametag for the purpose of filing a complaint.

Within minutes, the employee was chasing her down the terminal, ordering her to delete the photo.

This is how she explained it to The Consumerist:

She demanded that I hand over my camera phone so that she could delete the photo I took. I politely refused. She then insisted that I delete the photo while she watched. I again refused. She then informed me that if I didn't delete the photo in her presence, she would call the Houston Police Department, have be arrested, put me on the "no-fly list" and "make me miss my fancy Costa Rica vacation." She stated, "you will never fly my airline again." I asked her what law she was talking about and she replied, "My law."

Absurd threats from power-tripping ticket agents don't scare me. However they do scare my daughter, who began sobbing. I knew full well I broke no law and that the police don't have the time or resources for this garbage. My daughter had no such confidence. I deleted the photo and [the staffer] smirked at us and walked away. When we asked a TSA agent about it, she laughed, "of course it's not illegal."

Helen wrote to United and to Continental, which merged last year with United to form United Continental, the world’s largest air carrier.

They are operating as separate airlines until they receive a joint certification from the Federal Aviation Administration later this year, according to Bloomberg News.

United confirmed that photography will in deed get you placed on the no-fly list, while Continental apologized for the incident.

Below are the responses from both airlines, beginning with the response from United:

What you refer to as a law is actually a United policy. We strive to make its customer experience safe and comfortable and accordingly issued the following policy in regard to the use of personal audio and video equipment. This policy is not a contract and does not create any legal rights or obligations.

Unauthorized photography, audio, or video recording of airline personnel, aircraft equipment, or procedures is always prohibited. Any voice, audio, video, or other photography (motion or still), recording, or transmission while on any United Airlines aircraft or in the terminal is strictly prohibited, except to the extent specifically permitted by United Airlines.

Insistence on violating any one of these prohibitions could lead to arrest or being placed on the "no-fly list". Those results are extreme but are possible depending on the environment at the time. I hope this information helps.

Continental’s response:

The behavior you described is not reflective of our commitment to providing our customers the highest level of service. I apologize for the negative impression this situation created. We intend to provide a high-quality experience, tailored to meet the individual needs of our passengers.

Based on your comments, we did not meet your expectations, and I regret you were not satisfied with the service provided. I realize my apology cannot erase what happened, but I hope it helps to know we take your concerns very seriously.

At Continental Airlines, we believe all customers and co-workers are to be treated with dignity and respect. This philosophy is deeply woven into everything we do. I regret that [the staffer] did not meet this standard.

We expect our representatives to realize their responses to your requests can make a difference in your perception of our overall product.

[P]lease be assured your comments will be included in a monthly Customer Care report... which is distributed to senior management for internal review. I am confident necessary corrections will be made.

Again, please accept my heartfelt apology on behalf of the entire Continental Airlines team for the level of service you experienced. I hope you will not rely solely on this incident when forming your opinion of our overall service. The agent's actions you described is not reflective of the level of service we usually offer.

So only time will tell which policy will go into effect once the merger is complete later this year.

Meanwhile, the Transportation Security Administration insists it will not revise its policy on allowing passengers to photograph and videotape the checkpoint areas, even though many screeners act as if it is a violation of federal law.

 

Comments

George Bush Intercontinental Airport, not Houston International Airport.

Absolutely ridiculous. Perhaps it's time for some widespread photo activism against United until they train their employees on the rights of photographers.

"Houston's international airport"

Since Carlos made Houston possessive and didn't capitalize the last two words, he was not implying a name therefore "Houston's international airport" is correct.

I agree with the 2nd part of your statement though.

Carlos Miller - Photography is Not a Crime
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I had initially written Houston International Airport, then after Kyle pointed out my mistake, I just added the apostrophe and made the rest lower case to keep it simple.

Right on. Back in the day, it was Houston Intercontinental Airport before it became George Bush Intercontinental Airport/Houston, so you weren't too far off. :)

IAH has gone down the tubes though. I have flown in and out of that airport my entire life, and ever since the TSA came in post 9/11 the entire airport has gone insane. It used to be such a nice airport to fly out of.

My apologies Kyle.

True, but Hobby Airport was referred to as Houston International Airport previously. Hobby still takes some inbound international flights, too.

Someone needs to get arrested for a policy violation and insist on due process in the courts. Then sue the you know what out of United and Continental.

Just when did the police and the courts start inforcing a company policy.

Of course the other thing to do would be to refuse to fly on that airline in the future.

If someone started an airline that didn't treat people like something shat out of a dogs ass that company's fortune would skyrocket. Especially if they had their own air terminals with PRIVATE security, so no gay disco tittyballgrab x-ray TSA porno show. That and a policy where employees knew that if they were rude to fliers they would be FIRED. Would I pay an extra 30%, maybe even more, of normal ticket prices for this kind of service - FUCK YEAH!!!

I feel like you have the greatest ideas, thank you!

Even if I had a kid and they were crying, I still would have walked away from the employee. I don't have time for ego trippers.

An airline can't place anyone on the "no fly" list. Only the government can do that.

An airline also can't have you arrested merely for violating their policy. Their policies are not laws.

Did anyone else contact United Airlines to voice their disapproval with their contradictory policy, as well as the fact that they seem woefully confused about the legal standing and enforcement of such policies?
Please let them know that this is unacceptable, not just from a photographers' rights standpoint, but from a basic customer service standpoint.

All this airport paranoia, and fear and loathing
is bizarre. It's not like they're (Alk Ida) gonna try the
same method twice. So they tyrannize Americans
even though it was 19 Saudis/Lebanese/etc nationals.
Putting a paying customer on a "list" for photography?
Does this make sense to anyone? Sounds like just
another way to dig into people's pants and personal lives.
The abuses and crimes of TSA are a daily occurrence nowadays. Keep those cameras rolling...

It might be interesting for photographers who don't fly with these airlines to visit an airport from time to time and photograph counter representatives interacting with flyers. I can only wonder how they might react if they have no way to threaten the photographer. It is, after all, one more aspect of American life that deserves documenting by photojournalists.

Two things to point out. First, when I take a photo with my Droid2, I can upload it quickly. Perhaps one should take a photo and them upload it.

Secondly, once you are past the TSA, you are free to roam the airport. Might I suggest that folks who read this blog fly a different airlines and when you are at the terminal, seek out United, go out of your way to photography it's employees and NOT be subject to their rules? Might not be nice, but I a little passive-aggressive that way.

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