Yes, we do have the right to flip off cops
As much as cops hate to hear us say it, we pay their salaries. They work for us. They are public servants.
No different than any other government employee.
And the Constitution guarantees us the right to use profane language against them, including the physical act of extending our middle fingers in a flip off gesture against them.
Hell, even NWA were never arrested for singing “Fuck the Police” back in the 1990s.
But before NWA, there was Miami’s own 2 Live Crew, who were arrested in a Broward club for singing obscene songs in a case that was dismissed in court.
The rap group shot back with the song Banned in the USA (above video) and the song Fuck Martinez, which was a reference to Florida Governor Bob Martinez as well as to Broward County Sheriff Nick Navarro, who had ordered the group arrested.
So why it a Pittsburgh man having to defend this right in a federal suit after he was cited for flipping off an officer?
That’s the question that Time Magazine is asking in an article this week about a man named David Hackbart.
In 2006, Hackbart was trying to back into a parking space but the car behind him wouldn’t give him enough room. So Hackbart flipped the driver off, telling him to back up.
Hackbart then heard a voice tell him to not make the rude gesture in public. Hackbart turned around and flipped that guy off.
Only the second guy was a cop who cited him for, what else but, disorderly conduct.
A judge ended up throwing the case out on the grounds that it was unconstitutional. And a civil suit against the city was set to go before a federal judge this week but now the two sides are negotiating a settlement.
The problem is, as we all know, this is hardly an isolated incident.
The question, however, is whether the city has a pattern of tolerating this kind of constitutional violation. The ACLU says it found 188 cases from 2005 to 2007 in which people were cited under similar circumstances, despite an entry in the police department’s training manual making clear that vulgar speech is not illegal.
The question was set to go to trial in Federal District Court last week, but the matter was delayed at the last moment while the two sides explored a settlement. The city’s law department declined to comment on the case.
The article explores a couple of other cases, including the Henry Gates case. It also links to a couple of other Time articles that explores the fuzziness of the disorderly conduct charge. And the history behind it.
And it quotes an ACLU official who explains the term “contempt of cop,” which we are all familiar with on this blog.
“The law is clear that people have the constitutional right to use profanity, especially when it comes to government officials, because that is a form of political speech,” Walczak says. “But despite that, we have police officers regularly misapplying the law to punish people who offend them — that’s really what it comes down to.”
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Comments
I recall a case back in the 1960′s where a man was pulled over by the police while driving for giving a cop the finger. I don’t recall if there was a subsequent search, but I believe that there was. At any rate the man was found guilty of another violation as a result of the search. This one went clear to the the Supreme Court, where his conviction was thrown out, on the grounds that giving the finger was not sufficient reason for the police to have pulled him over in the first place. I wish I knew the name of the case.
so tomorrow should be “flip off a cop day” and lets see what happens?
Yeah. Let’s see what happens.
Like most rights, they must be exercised to continue to exist. So do your job as a patriotic american, and flick off a cop today!
I hope Mr. Hackbart does not settle, but instead gets a big fat legal precedent set.
Just recently we had a local cop tear up a gentleman’s hand-held sign during a street fair because he found it offensive.
It read: Will Tell Jokes For Sex
The cop was forced to remake the sign and the p.d. issued an official apology
A guy in OK was pulled over by a cop for a homemade anti-Obama sticker on his truck. He took it away but later the same day after some discussions with a lieutenant he had to apologize and give it back.
Hmmm
New Hampshire has it right “live free or die”. In this case exercise your rights to free speech or watch them die.
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